@Ayoh:

Exactly. The subpixel arrangement layered WITH touch finish is what causes the issue. A 4K IPS touch display does not share this issue. I have Asus VivoBook Pro 14 laptop with 2.8K Non-Touch OLED mentioned in the article sitting next to me right now, which is also free of the problem unlike many other OLED Touch laptops I've had in the past.

Have you recently used a laptop with a "Gen 3 Samsung OLED Non-Touch Display" yourself? Because it seems to me, all these laptops you're pointing out are not even using the panel relevant to this article.

Quote from: Dorby on December 22, 2021, 06:41:27
@Ayoh:

Again, that is incorrect. Poorly designed touch capacitive layer incompatible with the samsung's subpixel matrix is what causes the perceived "pixellation", not OLED panel itself.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Look at the pixel arrangement of the oled screen laptops in all notebookcheck reviews, there is a clear patter on black voids, this is what is causing the pixellation. It is not a touch layer. As just one example, The same touch layer is applied to the 4k IPS screen on the dell 9510 screen and it has no issues, yet the OLED panel does.

These oleds all have these issues. Why keep spreading Samsung marketing propaganda that they don't?

@Ayoh:

Again, that is incorrect. Poorly designed touch capacitive layer incompatible with the samsung's subpixel matrix is what causes the perceived "pixellation", not OLED panel itself.

I just looked at the HP Spectre x360 16" OLED model in store. The model is a very recent release and should incorporate the latest generation OLED screen from Samsung. Unfortunately the exact same pixellated mesh is visible on the screen as in ALL other Samsung OLED screens. This is yet another example of the inherent deisgn flaw which palgues all samsung OLED screens and significantly diminishes their perceived resolution and image quality. At least HP is finally using an anti-reflective coating on their glossy touch screens though. Still i would never buy an OLED laptop with this poor quality

I am skeptical that the issue is supposedly no longer present on new models since similar anecdotes were made about past models which clearly have the same design fault. For example the new Dell 9510 OLED clearly had the same issues and it is quite recent

@Ayoh:

That issue is only present on 1080p FHD OLED laptops including Samsung Galaxy Book Pro (2021) and Asus ZenBook (2020) series, or OLED laptops with a touchscreen option. It is no longer an issue on the new high-resolution, non-touch OLEDs - 14" 2.8K 90Hz and 15" 4K 60Hz - mainly on Asus and Lenovo products released past Q3 2021.

The pixelated view is NOT due to the touch layer. It is visible even on non-touch Samsung laptop OLEDs. Itis due to the sub-pixel arrangment with large black voids between pixels as can be seen in these reviews

@Ayoh:

The "graininess" is caused by laptop OEMs using third party touchscreen layers, not a problem inherent to the Samsung Gen3 OLED panels. Newer non-touch OLED laptops from Asus and Lenovo reportedly do not share this issue.

everything is getting expensive

Shame that all Samsung OLED laptop panels have a terrible pixelated black pixel grid visible in use due to the panel pixel arrangement. On white backgrounds even 4k panels look like sub FHD panels due to this. I have personally used several of these panels in a (Dell XPS 9510, HP Omen envy etc.) and would would never buy one due to this issues. In fact the IPS panel in the Dell XPS actually looks better overall (brighter, no mesh) except for movies in dark environments.

Regardless now am using the new Macbook Pro 16 which has a panel better than any current Samsung laptop OLED.

I don't understand why Samsung can not just use a larger blue pixel to get rid of the black void pixel in their laptop OLEDS. Their tablet and phone OLED clearly do not have this problem. Even LG OLED TV's do not have this problem (i have a LG C9)

It is a shame that most reviewers (except for Linus tech tips) do not mention this glaring problem. Even this website hardly mentions it!