Shadow of the Tomb Raider is executed through Rosetta 2. It is not optimized for Apple silicon.

Would like to know how much slower the M1 Max is on the 14" vs 16" MacBook.

A shame that Steam games do not run on Apple Mac OS.

Had I wanted to play video games like a 16 year old, I would have bought a flashy bling bling Razer - or Alienware laptop. With marquee and gold grills 'n stuff.
This is - always has been - always will be - a machine for productivity work on-the-go, for users that don't mind the price tag, because this is their tool they make money with. Like a hammer for a carpenter.

hmmm...no mention of whether these tests were conducted using rosetta emulation or whether plugged into power or not to show true real life performance. I am assuming the answer is yes to rosetta and yes to plugged into the wall.

@Bau

Overall energy spending at this level is not big so the performance is much more important. Only matters for those that are on the road.
For example the M1 Max is destroyed in Redshift render benchmark. 11.5min vs 4.5 min. What you prefer to do 2 iterations(changing lights, materials etc) or 4?

si,si .?...al finalmente un poco de engaño de Apple! sacan ultraportátil y lo comparan con tarjetas gráficas y juegos. Que pena dais Apple, en serio. Engaña tontos, igual hacen los politicos %^%$#$^^^%&€&€^%
Si, patraña consumo, y no hablamos del precio!!! coste por $
pues portailes de 1000-1600$ lo igualan o superan
ti o!
Saludos y gracias

No ones take in consideration the power consumption difference?

Bullshits!

Apple APU use only 90GB/s

8400MT/s for M2 with higher bandwidth that use double will be enough.

Quote from: 123 on October 25, 2021, 21:52:25
M1Pro and max runs games on DDR5 so it's an APU not a dGPU that use GDDR6. Even M2 will use LPDDR%X @8400MT7s with lowest latency will never compete against 8GB GDDR6 @18Gbps.

You're actually on the wrong track here. DDR memory has significantly lower latency compared to GDDR, which is why it's used for CPU memory on PCs. But bandwidth wise, DDR is much slower than GDDR, which is why GDDR is used as video memory.

I don't know if Apple uses LPDDR or GDDR for their unified memory architecture, but if its DDR then that's absolutely genius.

Because the apple memory is crazy fast bandwidth wise, just like GDDR6 (400 GB/s) but also has extremly low latencies as it's still DDR.  You can say they combined the best of both worlds into the ultimate memory, and that's just crazy. Both the CPU and GPU part of the SoC can be fully satisfied that way, unlike a regular APU with just either GDDR (consoles) or DDR (low end APUs).

@LukasWu

This competition it is also very good also for us PC users that due to some software can't change.

I only wonder what will happend if Apple will tweak software and make enviroment for game devs.
All critics aside, we have a new player on the market, in my opinion 'good' macbooks ended cirka 2015, then was this awful, overpriced mediocre hardware.
Now, if they keep up the performance each deviation next year we will have a macbook that will be on par with it's patched up with whatever is better (Intel/AMD/nvidia/Motherboard) counterparts.
I've parted with apple few yeara ago, but that brings my attention back to them.

Why you manipulate what i said?  where i said should be the only benchmark?
It seems is that you are projecting and is that you want SPEC to be the only benchmark.


Spec2017 Blender file appears based on old Blender tech, not todays.


There are several current Blender demo files. BMW27 is one.
Go to blender.org for demo files.

Just download Blender - there is no need to install it - and load any of this scenes.

Quote from: LL on October 26, 2021, 00:03:44

QuoteSPEC 2017 is the golden standard when it comes to performance comparison. The other synthetic benchmarks are a joke in comparison.

Are you joking?
The BMW27 test is a Blender scene - there is nothing fake on it - you start Blender, load the scene - it exist the CPU option or GPU option and click Render.
The Cinebench R23 scene replicates a interior scene using the Cinema 4D render engine.

Why would Cinebench or Blender be the only benchmarks? Different workloads different relative performances.
Did you know that SPEC actually has several different tests and one of them is based on blender?

QuoteSPEC 2017 is the golden standard when it comes to performance comparison. The other synthetic benchmarks are a joke in comparison.

Are you joking?
The BMW27 test is a Blender scene - there is nothing fake on it - you start Blender, load the scene - it exist the CPU option or GPU option and click Render.
The Cinebench R23 scene replicates a interior scene using the Cinema 4D render engine.

The gaming comparison isn't fair, as they're comparing native DX12 x86 original versions with OpenGL ports running on Rosetta.