Quote from: Dan6 on September 22, 2021, 21:58:32
Cool laptop. The only disappointment is RTX 3050 - they could fit at least RTX 3060 considering its thickness. But I think it will be quiet under load like other Surface devices.

Yeah, but not the only, the battery also sounds like a disappointment, if they didn't have to go with that recessed design, I imagine it would at least offer another 10Wh, and 2 more C ports.

Quote from: flareon on September 22, 2021, 22:37:12
The 2014 Vaio Z Flip called; it wants to know if it's mainstream now.

I think they really wanted to stay under that 100W USB-C PD limit so they didn't opt for 3060, which would have to be 60W by itself (and ideally 90-100W) at least to be worthwhile. Shame they didn't opt for an octa-core 15 W AMD chip to go with the GPU.

Yeah, shame it didn't work out for...actually that's still Sony back then wasn't it, not the independent VAIO.
There isn't really a 100W PD limit though, there are semi-customized C ports that pass 120W, if not more, and are still backward-compatible with regular C port devices.
And again I'm concerned about how MS still stays at the end of each product cycle, even as Intel is playing catchup, now with M2 around the corner, how far behind does this fall compared to M1 Pro again...?

I'd wonder if under load while plugged into the an outlet, if the power brick will able to be supply enough juice so the battery doesn't drain. Microsoft has had that issue on past Surface Book's before...

The 3050ti only has 4096 vram, compared to SB2/SB3 with 6GB vram.
Plus resolution is less but refresh rate is higher.

Not sure what to think...?

This... seems like a downgrade design wise.

I wonder how Tiger Lake H35 performs? Doesn't seem to be on par with Ryzen H35 as far as battery life goes.

The 2014 Vaio Z Flip called; it wants to know if it's mainstream now.

I think they really wanted to stay under that 100W USB-C PD limit so they didn't opt for 3060, which would have to be 60W by itself (and ideally 90-100W) at least to be worthwhile. Shame they didn't opt for an octa-core 15 W AMD chip to go with the GPU.

Cool laptop. The only disappointment is RTX 3050 - they could fit at least RTX 3060 considering its thickness. But I think it will be quiet under load like other Surface devices.