Quote from: JayN on April 07, 2021, 22:18:20
Intel's Alder Lake chips appear to be closer to the Apple M1 designs.  Intel says they will roll out a 16 core Alder Lake desktop chip in 2H 2021 with DDR5 memory,+ PCIE5 io and new cores.  Its Gracemont cores will also provide an option for low power operation ... which should eat into Apple's features.

Apple needs to catch up with Tiger Lake's Thunderbolt 4 that's already sold over 30 million chips since launch.  Intel's integrated Xe GPUs and display support are also superior.

Ignoring the pure guesswork and faith in Alderlake... in what way is Xe superior in any way?  It gets half the frame rates at twice the power of the Apple solution.

Quote from: Electrical Engineer on April 09, 2021, 10:25:51
How funny. Now benchmarks are looking damn fake which can be controlled by manufacturers. It close gap with 11900k in single core but can't beat 3 gen old ryzen cpu. How moronic these tests and news are. Lol

Woooow, why do idiots even bother coming to this website? Laughing my asss offffffff. You idiots don't realize that the Apple M1 only draws freaking 13W at max CPU load. At idle, it sits at 23 mW. That's 0.23W for you idiots. 13W AT MAX CPU LOAD. How much does AMD or Intel need for match that level of performance? 40? 50? nope, more like 70-80. AMD and Intel are very concerned because they cannot match that level of performance per watt as Apple with their x86 counterparts.

Quote from: Mark Faulkner on April 07, 2021, 21:22:04
Wow it beats some CPUs in single Core yet is slower overall than a Ryzen 1700... I am sure Intel amd AMD are very concerned 😂

Hahahaha exactly

Quote from: 8&8 on April 07, 2021, 11:46:01
ARM come future  :p

Will you further stop joking yourself here. Lol

How funny. Now benchmarks are looking damn fake which can be controlled by manufacturers. It close gap with 11900k in single core but can't beat 3 gen old ryzen cpu. How moronic these tests and news are. Lol

Quote from: Roger on April 09, 2021, 00:19:19
Yes, of course, but I was talking about laptop CPUs

The problem is that they have been planning it all along. When they released their first phone chip, they talked about it being a desktop class design - or something to that effect. Of course, everybody laughed at that back then. But Apple has been keeping breakneck pace ever since then. Only proving just how much potential their design has. M1 really is pretty much A14 with some extra cores. And while Apple had no history of processor design, the people they hired did.

Quote from: L on April 08, 2021, 08:21:07
@Roger
Apple has had it's own chips in phones and tablets for years..

Yes, of course, but I was talking about laptop CPUs

How exactly is this useful? I bought this M1 Macbook Pro hoping to do video editing for my film. However, the professional editors that are in the field all want to use Avid Composer for editing, and it's not available for Apple Silicon with no date in sight when it will be available. The software available  for M1 chips is limited. It is now being used as a glorified iPad without the touch capability. It is going to take a long time for the Apple Silicon to beat Intel chips right now.

@Roger
Apple has had it's own chips in phones and tablets for years..

the thing is this was Apples first attempt at chips and only for the entry level computers! Look out, much better ones are coming

so, was this test done on a single logical core, or a single physical core on x86? 

Intel's Alder Lake chips appear to be closer to the Apple M1 designs.  Intel says they will roll out a 16 core Alder Lake desktop chip in 2H 2021 with DDR5 memory,+ PCIE5 io and new cores.  Its Gracemont cores will also provide an option for low power operation ... which should eat into Apple's features.

Apple needs to catch up with Tiger Lake's Thunderbolt 4 that's already sold over 30 million chips since launch.  Intel's integrated Xe GPUs and display support are also superior.

hmm I score 3626 single core on a 5800X  :p

Apple doesn't matter for one main reason...

No one can buy their chips and put them in their device.

If you want to use Apple's chips you have to use them in their boxes with their software. So any chance of building an awesome IoT, gaming, server, or desktop system is completely out of the question.

Wow it beats some CPUs in single Core yet is slower overall than a Ryzen 1700... I am sure Intel amd AMD are very concerned 😂