And the lunacy continues. Does NCC (NotebookCheCk) = CNN? "Stab in the back" theory, "targeted harassment of AMD", "willful incompetence" (!!), and everyone's favorite - OEM's "throttling" of AMD chips.
Tune in @ 9:00 PM for more! Don't forget your tinfoil hat.
Ugh.

I had to contact the chat Rep to get a link to the 5950x and 3090 page.  To Dell's credit, they price matched a better configured PC by IBPower but upgrading the Dell and price matching it,  But, to the point,, the R10 I wanted was not public-I had to use a link provided by the Rep.

Quote from: Engineers can't sell on May 15, 2021, 13:12:03
Ryzen systems are cheaper. Dell is simply appealing to the budget conscious gamer by showing more affordable configurations. And since Ryzen is always cheaper than Intel, that's the system they're going to show.

I believe you are mistaken, Alienware is charging more for the R10 that's similar in specification to the r12 by not offering the same options.

Ryzen systems are cheaper. Dell is simply appealing to the budget conscious gamer by showing more affordable configurations. And since Ryzen is always cheaper than Intel, that's the system they're going to show.

If they showed downgraded Intel configurations, there would still be sticker shock.

No one researches their gaming systems on the manufacturer's website anyway. Chances are, customers already know what they're looking for on the Alienware page.

If anyone has looked into this, I'd like to point out an other very big discrepancy between the r10 ryzen edition and r12.

The r10 requires a 1000 watt PSU to select the rx 6800 xt, while the r12 only requires the 550 watt PSU to do the same. The cost is significantly lower for the same basic configuration

1.lowest tier cpu
2.single dimm of ddr4 3200 8gb
3.rx 6800xt
4.1tb HDD
5.dark side of the moon chassis with PSU
6.basic wifi
7. No keyboard/mouse

R12 = $1577.79

R10 Ryzen Edition = $1714.99

"Could all this be Alienware'sDell's incompetence, or is Intel somehow involved in these practices? The truth is out there, somewhere."

Why not both? At this point, I'd not be amazed by either Intel's fingering of OEMs nor Dell's laziness at having to do things other than try to sell you 'a warranty to go with that?' for the 8th time in a row.
Didn't you know? Dell's in the market of warranty scams, not a computer hardware company.

I appreciated the alien / x-files reference.  :D

Quote from: JayN on May 13, 2021, 23:29:05
AMD's Alienware laptops use Ryzen 9 5900HX, which has no pcie4, according to the spec I see.

Did you also see the giant image of an Alienware desktop on this article, or that the article is explicitly talking about Alienware Aurora R10, R11 and R12 desktop systems?

AMD's Alienware laptops use Ryzen 9 5900HX, which has no pcie4, according to the spec I see.