Quote from: Dorby on February 27, 2021, 01:32:13
One of the drawbacks with Intel H-CPU compared to AMD H-CPU was that they couldn't get the idle power consumption down enough to make a laptop last long on a web-browsing benchmark. U-CPU used to be a bottleneck, even for low-end GPUs, but not anymore it seems.

To me, it seems the issue lies in drivers and BIOS. There have been notebooks with H series processors with good battery life (idle over 20 hours, Wi-Fi over 12). But it's often not the case for gaming laptops. Not only it looks like the manufacturers might often not be interested in optimizing the laptop for battery life, they also often have smaller batteries. And truth be told, those optimizations can have their price.

@ChrisFreez, there's no need to worry about silicon being at 100° c I've done that on my 12 year old G50VT gaming laptop and no silicon haa failed, despite sooo many years of distributed computing number crunching

There is more to a gaming laptop than a cpu!

I own a MSI GS63 and it has had so many issues, and none as far as I can tell from overheating. The speakers didn't work out of the box, and the screen, touchpad, and keyboard all failed in short order. When I had it returned from the warranty repair 1 speaker worked and the case had buckled around the power button. Sound is barely a whisper out of this thing.

I really recommend avoiding MSI, and I say this with regret because I loved my old GE60

No, it means that it makes sense to pair Intel U-CPU + GTX or RTX 3050 for budget oriented performance laptops that will get more juice out of a smaller battery (where most manufacturing costs are saved).

One of the drawbacks with Intel H-CPU compared to AMD H-CPU was that they couldn't get the idle power consumption down enough to make a laptop last long on a web-browsing benchmark. U-CPU used to be a bottleneck, even for low-end GPUs, but not anymore it seems.

The only problem is, i7-1185G7 is more expensive than i5-10300H that usually goes into a budget laptop in this market segment.

But isnt the price of H series CPUs the same of U series for the manufacturers? I dont remember where i saw, but if they are close in price, then it makes sense use a H series CPU

@ChrizFreez please learn to read, the article isn't saying that this laptop has a good value, but that this combination of hardware is a valid alternative.

Personally I'd be happy with a laptop that wasn't designed to run at 100°C and cook itself. If for some reason I wanted to try fried silicon, I have a perfectly good pan in my kitchen. Looking at you, Dell.

So you are comparing 2019 35w tech with latest CPUs, that it's even hard to get the hands on? Weird.

Not so much as "working" as "able to turn on". Those are terrible numbers for that price, which will get you almost double the performance on other devices of the same price.