Quote from: Neil on February 09, 2021, 15:36:59
This looks about right I'm not sure what everybody's so upset about in the comments the article is merely stating facts about power consumption

I bet this is the author of the article himself posting anonymously to justify his logic, but it was a very poor attempt nevertheless. Your logic sounds like: you can compare a donkey d.ick to your own because they are used for the same purporse, just like a toaster and electric oven are both used for cooking,....

This looks about right I'm not sure what everybody's so upset about in the comments the article is merely stating facts about power consumption

Right, because it totally makes sense to compete consoles to laptops, two machines built for very different purposes. One centred around power efficiency, while other designed to be used with power outlet. Plus not yo mention that RTX3080 performs closer to 3060Ti than 3080 with at least some power limits.

This is just pointless clickbait article and reason why some of us absolutely hate media, which dropped to low level of where Youtubers we're back when media was laughing at them for clickbait titles. Oh, how tables turned...

deleting comments about the life of battery because GPU needs more than 180W , the article talks about PS5 consumption against a normal laptop wih RTX 3080.

In Short PS5 APU is a GTX 1660Ti equivalent VGA with a 180W TDP, only a question: How is possible?
GTX 1080 consume 180W and is 20% faster than [1070/1660Ti] equivalent.
Are we sure that a PS5 with a low cost of only 500$ get an 8c/16t Zen2 with 36RDNA2 CU? I really doubt because renoir APU that get the same architecture get only 8 Vega 2nd gen  for a price near 350$.
But in this price is included also SSD M.2 and RAM...
I'm sceptical!

Ok I can even believe that in few money they included all hw for console made in china, but perfs say the truth.
APU of PS5 is not a true RDNA2 that is 40% faster than RDNA. 36CU is nerf 40CU RX 5600XT equivalent of GTX 1080 so why is not equivalent in perfs? obviously if it was true the price of console should be near around 800$.

PS5 is scam according aristotelian deduction LOL

Quote from: Ivoto on February 09, 2021, 05:58:53
Someone found the hot water with this. Of course desktop setup for one fifth the price is using more power. What do you expect. You need to change the the name of the thread because it sounds ridiculously stupid!

They are also deleting comments when you criticize their credibility. Indeed the editors have been taking lessons from their friends in the far east. And I have to click a ton of captcha to even post a comment.

Someone found the hot water with this. Of course desktop setup for one fifth the price is using more power. What do you expect. You need to change the the name of the thread because it sounds ridiculously stupid!

I'm very surprised they aren't aware that the ps5 is less then half the price of that laptop. I expect my higher prices gadgets have miraculous advantages over cheaper merchandise.

I'm a gamer 4 life. All I can say is my power bill is the last thing i'm thinking about when i'm playing.

I would file this under completely obvious to all humans.

The beefiest of notebooks have around a 230-240 watt power brick. And their GPUs can draw between 90 and 100 watts.

On what planet does a dedicated gaming console now draw more than that?

When are we going to see the PS5 power consumption vs a refrigerator?
We need to know these things

Okay so this one is tough to figure out. Power comparison is a great thing but what is being compared is a apples to oranges:
PS5 - Ryzen with Zen2 that runs at solid 3.5GHz.
GPU is a CUSTOM RDNA2 Device -
Let's look at the only similar specialized technology that is available future laptops as well as a single release in 2020. It's the power management technology SmartShift®.

Forget that laptops have displays and are not designed the same way - nor can you load them up with an obscene amount of liquid metal and look at the only 2020 laptop that had the Smartshift technology:

Dell G15SE - CPU Zen2 Ryzen 7 4800H (Great! We close with both being Zen2)
GPU is RX 5600M RDNA® with SmartShift® technology (Crap - We have fallen an RDNA generation behind) That is the closest you can get to similar technology if a laptop and console will be compared as well as how power will be handled as power from the CPU/GPU can shift between them. This year it was the only 2 consumer products (except maybe the Xbox as well) that utilized this technology. Now I still believe we are far from actually being similar with technology. Not to mention rating the performance. But as for price - that Dell will land you anywhere between 800 and 1200 bucks. Power utilization - that has to be studied carefully too. But this is definitely a more viable comparison especially when you are talking power and dollar to dollar - Not performance. As for performance I know that the G15 SE ran hot. I got one and compiled a Linux kernel with all the optimizations and boy it was hot. Didn't do alot of rendering in the quality realm. Was compiling and testing Mesa.

There is my two cents. Not a bad idea but the technology from a console to a laptop is just too far apart even if you try to get close to the hardware; which you cannot; only touch on technology features with similar hardware and we are an RDNA generation apart along with SOC/Displays, etc etc.

Quote from: Dudley Lionheart on February 08, 2021, 16:30:36
Good article, just ignore the disgruntled comments.

Ah, yes. Why wouldn't we compare the power-consumption of EUR€2000-EUR€3000+ machines made specifically to be power efficient against a console starting at USD$399/EUR€399 that is made specifically to be cost effective? /s

Why would you even compare a ps5 with a notebook? I just doesn't make sense. All of this while testing witcher 3. Atleast test the latest games.

Quote from: _MT_ on February 08, 2021, 16:36:58

Quote from: mochabean on February 08, 2021, 10:06:53
breaking news: gaming device plugged into wall uses more power than gaming device designed to run on batteries

While I struggle to see a point of the article (I guess he equates power consumption with performance and therefore argues that PS5 offers a lot of performance for the money), full performance in a typical gaming laptop is only available while plugged-in. And even with reduced performance on battery, battery life is almost non-existent while playing demanding games. I mean, it's trivial mathematics. Even a big 100 Wh battery would last just over half an hour with 180 W load on it (100/180). If not less because of the relatively high discharge rate. If you want to game for, say, three hours, you don't have a big power budget. You're more in an ultrabook territory than gaming laptop territory - about 30 W at most, for the whole laptop.

I agree, it appears that the editors are paid according to the number of articles they churn out, instead of quality and sense.

Quote from: Dudley Lionheart on February 08, 2021, 16:30:36
Good article, just ignore the disgruntled comments.

Both units compared can be unplugged in a couple of seconds and thrown into a back-pack, so a highly relevant article. What's more astonishing, is that the laptop is powering a coloured LCD screen as well.

The display only uses a few watts of power. I wouldn't say that it qualifies for *astonishing*.