Quote from: VulpaStatis on January 17, 2021, 12:24:33
So ok stupid people that are saying this is extremely over price and that sort of paper sheet. If you are buildin pc from nothing, without monitor, this laptop whould be much cheaper than pc analog. Firstly it has touch screen and stylus wuth 100 percent of sRGB, wich mean that you dont need to buy freaking drawing monitor for 1100 usd. Also its not 60hz monitor, that is used at drawing monitors, its 120hz-144hz monitor wich makes its cost even more, just for monitor. So only basic monitor of this laptop should cost about 1500usd, add gtx1650 gddr6 and ryzen 7 5800hs. And its your choice to buy eGPU or not, so bassically this laptop should be best price-performance laptop in high end laptop category. So its basically monster tablet, with abillity to connect desktop performance through rog station, and it totally destroys apple macbooks and that sort of overpriced poop. Of cource there is no guarantee that eGPU will fully open its potential in this laptop, so lets just hope that prices will not grow, and eGPUs prices will go down

You'd be deluded to think this screen could match a $1500 monitor(not even 10bit in any sense, may even be 6+2), and such a professional monitor would be guaranteed to have a high quality digitizer while there's nothing to indicate this digitizer is even usable. The one on my XPS13 2N1 is bad enough in terms of jitter, lag and stabilization that it's unusable for most applications.
Since they're the only ones selling the eGPUs you can bet they're not going to cut the price so easily, both due to lack of volume and control over the supply.

So ok stupid people that are saying this is extremely over price and that sort of paper sheet. If you are buildin pc from nothing, without monitor, this laptop whould be much cheaper than pc analog. Firstly it has touch screen and stylus wuth 100 percent of sRGB, wich mean that you dont need to buy freaking drawing monitor for 1100 usd. Also its not 60hz monitor, that is used at drawing monitors, its 120hz-144hz monitor wich makes its cost even more, just for monitor. So only basic monitor of this laptop should cost about 1500usd, add gtx1650 gddr6 and ryzen 7 5800hs. And its your choice to buy eGPU or not, so bassically this laptop should be best price-performance laptop in high end laptop category. So its basically monster tablet, with abillity to connect desktop performance through rog station, and it totally destroys apple macbooks and that sort of overpriced poop. Of cource there is no guarantee that eGPU will fully open its potential in this laptop, so lets just hope that prices will not grow, and eGPUs prices will go down

I'm wondering what the cooling will be like in such a small package. Seems that current multimedia laptop with midrange dedicated GPUs have difficulty keeping things cool when not idle. Even light loads let the fans spins and create significant noise.

Side mounted power button.
Take note HP (and now Lenovo too)(though HP might have an alternative by tapping the screen, but so far no one confirmed this working)

It's a desktop RTX3070 performance + USB-C dock + power supply + eGPU box + ultra portability for ~US$1,500. Is it expensive? Absolutely.

The only alternative for a Ryzen ultrabook without USB 4.0 adaptation is to run a M.2 to TB3 eGPU via an empty storage slot by opening up the laptop bottom cover, given that it does have a Ryzen 5000H processor and a second SSD slot with full PCIe 4.0 x4, and you would still lose performance when using an eGPU with the laptop's internal display via the Vega iGPU.

Quote from: SimonAlu on January 13, 2021, 13:31:30
Oh lord, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it happen that there will be an eGPU box that supports actual Desktop grades GPU´s and not this 3080mobile for 1500bucks bullsh*t.

If that happens, then this is the perfect Ultrabook. If not then its just another huge disappointment.

Side note: I dont understand why people cry about the proprietary connector when this is basically the only option to use an eGPU without any bottleneck, since TB4 was just an utter disappointment.
Seriously, who on earth wants to run a 3070 or anything better on a TB3/4 port?

then you can't use this egpu as charger (it's not compact with desktop gpu). Size of this egpu is pretty similar with my old alienware charger. and price of this laptop+ 3080egpu box is similar to other non-maxQ 3080 lapotops(yeah in that egpu is 130w overclocked 3080mobile with 16gb) . Just think about it as charger that unlock full power of your laptop as it really is.

Quote from: SimonAlu on January 13, 2021, 13:31:30
Oh lord, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it happen that there will be an eGPU box that supports actual Desktop grades GPU´s and not this 3080mobile for 1500bucks bullsh*t.

If that happens, then this is the perfect Ultrabook. If not then its just another huge disappointment.

Side note: I dont understand why people cry about the proprietary connector when this is basically the only option to use an eGPU without any bottleneck, since TB4 was just an utter disappointment.
Seriously, who on earth wants to run a 3070 or anything better on a TB3/4 port?

Obviously it's their choice to offer only the mobile version, and since it's proprietary, most likely nobody else will provide anything else. Also, since all that's known is that it's based on TB3.0x8, there's no guarantee the bandwidth would be high enough for 3080/mobile either.

Oh lord, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it happen that there will be an eGPU box that supports actual Desktop grades GPU´s and not this 3080mobile for 1500bucks bullsh*t.

If that happens, then this is the perfect Ultrabook. If not then its just another huge disappointment.

Side note: I dont understand why people cry about the proprietary connector when this is basically the only option to use an eGPU without any bottleneck, since TB4 was just an utter disappointment.
Seriously, who on earth wants to run a 3070 or anything better on a TB3/4 port?

Alienware AGA never took off? That's an interesting statement considering that the connector is on all for their models and the external GPU case was supporting all the GPU's until this latest 3XXX generation.

I'm surprised by the bottlenecked comments, which are not backed by any tests as a GPU in Alienware AGA loses perhaps 5% of its desktop performance.

"If you want the most powerful Ultrabook money can buy, then the Razer Blade Stealth is pretty much the only option"

Surface Book 13? 14" Clevo NV41? MSI 14"? Lenovo Yoga 15? You guys reviewed these laptops, not me.

Quote from: Mothertrucker19 on January 13, 2021, 09:47:09

Quote from: capnkimo on January 13, 2021, 04:24:36
hope it has Wacom EMR

Or AES, or just any kind of active pen support.

Why? What's the point of a crap digitizer with tons of jitter and stabilization like the XPS13 2N1's?

Quote from: Saprito on January 13, 2021, 00:32:02
Will STILL be bottlenecked, then forgotten

I agree, twice the usual bandwidth means twice that of a 1070 would fall beyond the point of diminishing returns, which would be around a mobile 3070, so a mobile 3060 would be the highest it could support while causing little performance degradation.

Quote from: capnkimo on January 13, 2021, 04:24:36
hope it has Wacom EMR

Or AES, or just any kind of active pen support.

hope it has Wacom EMR

Soldered 16 gigs of RAM - thank you, I'm going to shop for something else.

Quote from: Tres Waters on January 12, 2021, 23:37:37
LTT said that it has Gen 4 8x, not gen 3. Also hoping that it has hdmi 2.1 for better TV compatibility.

Asus specifications say it is Gen 3 x8, not Gen 4 x8.