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Posted by Spunjji
 - December 11, 2020, 17:14:10
Quote from: jeremy on December 08, 2020, 20:31:30
This is AMDs 8th product family with TSMC's world leading 7nm (almost 2 years since their first 7nm product hit the market), 3rd graphics architecture launched on 7nm, and this is the best they can do vs Samsung's inferior 8nm node? Barely getting less power consumption?

AMD should be easily creaming Nvidia right now, but this is what we get? Paper launches and barely any meaningful advantage?

How about we try the converse: with uncontested market dominance, an arguably superior software stack and a company three times the size of AMD that solely focuses on GPU and computer products, the best Nvidia could do was a bloated GPU on Samsung 8nm that they can barely manufacture, costs 50% more than the AMD competition and doesn't consistently outperform it - for 50W higher power draw.

Neither of these is a fair picture of what's going on, but it's actually painful how hard you had to narrow your focus to make this look like AMD doing *badly*. They improved performance per watt by 50% on the same process node, for crying out loud.
Posted by Clement
 - December 09, 2020, 00:56:00
The phrasing of this post is very confusing, starting with the title (as was already pointed out): "better average power consumption" is more relatable here.

"which was over 50 W behind the GeForce RTX 3090 on 352.7 W and a good distance behind the RTX 3080 on 328.4 W." -> "ahead" or "less" make more sense here.
Posted by jeremy
 - December 08, 2020, 20:31:30
This is AMDs 8th product family with TSMC's world leading 7nm (almost 2 years since their first 7nm product hit the market), 3rd graphics architecture launched on 7nm, and this is the best they can do vs Samsung's inferior 8nm node? Barely getting less power consumption?

AMD should be easily creaming Nvidia right now, but this is what we get? Paper launches and barely any meaningful advantage?
Posted by rmt.putty
 - December 08, 2020, 19:49:24
It's bit pointless with those graphs; albeit feels like an AMD promo post.

Blog also has "Avg Watt / Frame" graphs; there you can see the power efficiency of Radeon GPUs.

However, NVIDIA still good with Ray-Tracing.

Anybody has any idea whether AMD has increased profit margins per CPU/GPU recently; considering Intel / NVIDIA's poor releases?

Are they(AMD) making hay while it's shining?
Posted by SimonAB
 - December 08, 2020, 18:15:33
"superior average power consumption"

I think you mean inferior.
Posted by Redaktion
 - December 08, 2020, 17:28:28
The new AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT graphics card has been popping up in various reviews, and in one particularly grueling test the Navi 21 part showed off its exemplary average power consumption in gaming. The RX 6900 XT consumed more than 50 W less than the rival Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 FE and 25-30 W less than the RTX 3080 FE.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-RX-6900-XT-displays-superior-average-power-consumption-over-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-3080-FE-and-RTX-3090-FE-by-up-to-over-50-W-from-1080p-to-4K.508556.0.html