So this means that they are getting more +50% more performance over there previous generation...? Something doesn't seem right? AMD has been hot but that would be pretty much impossible for them to realistically provide customers

Quote from: JayN on November 06, 2020, 18:25:55
The Intel Ice Lake Server chips are in qualification and scheduled to ramp in q1.  The Sunny Cove cores will have dual avx512 units.  Update to 8 channels of higher speed DDR4 and update to PCIE4 io.  Update of optane to new generation.  Seems like, with just those changes, it should be very competitive.

That very much depends on pricing. Platinums make practically zero sense unless you really, really need those extra cores in a single system and you don't mind paying exorbitant prices to get them. So, are they going to keep 28 core processors to Platinum? Or are they going to release Gold or perhaps even Silver processors? Are they going to lower premiums for the number of sockets supported? Since AMD can offer 64 cores per socket. Or are they going to make 56 core processors widely available? Without them requiring liquid cooling.

Are you seriously claiming that a single 7713 with 64 cores can outperform dual 7742 with twice as many cores? Are you certain it wasn't a dual socket system? The processor will support two sockets (it's not a single socket P version). The 7742 is also a 64 core processor. It's the best AMD has to offer in the Rome generation except for the 7H12 which is intended, I believe, for supercomputers. That would mean about double the IPC. Surely, that sounds suspicious. Or do you not think about what you write? 8280L has 28 cores so it's not surprising it plays the same league (4x28 = 112). Although, you've got to be desperate to buy Platinum Xeons. They're not good value at all. Aimed at banks or oil companies.

Assuming the stated frequency is base, I wouldn't bet on it getting much, if at all, higher. In servers, efficiency and power density matter a lot. You can have over a hundred processors in a single rack. At 200 W per socket, you're talking 20+ kW. From a single rack. And from processors alone. The higher power processors tend to be intended for specialized applications which might employ liquid cooling to deal with the density.

"Lastly, the top ranking is currently held by four Intel Xeon Platinum 8280L processors, which barely manage a 5 percent speed increase over the Zen 3-based EPYC Milan chip."

The Intel Ice Lake Server chips are in qualification and scheduled to ramp in q1.  The Sunny Cove cores will have dual avx512 units.  Update to 8 channels of higher speed DDR4 and update to PCIE4 io.  Update of optane to new generation.  Seems like, with just those changes, it should be very competitive.

Just stop, they already dead

also, on paragraph 2, should be Cascade Lake, not Caskade Lake