Quote from: Dan Niemeyer on November 02, 2020, 16:11:05
AMD's boosted clock versus off-the-shelf Intel's 10th generation processor. Let's see a more fair comparison-max out or overclock Intel and then put it against your AMD boosted clock version. Intel will smoke AMD

More fair? LOL. You seem to have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. The 5600X runs at STOCK. Which means it can boost up to 4.6 GHz on at least one core. The 10900K can boost up to 5.3 GHz on at least one core. So, the 5600X has 700 MHz less frequency in the single thread benchmark and still smokes the 10900K. And CPU-Z is a quite Intel friendly benchmark since version 1.79. Intel is done for now. Maybe they have more luck with Golden Cove on 10nm in 2022.

Quote from: Dan Niemeyer on November 02, 2020, 16:11:05
AMD's boosted clock versus off-the-shelf Intel's 10th generation processor. Let's see a more fair comparison-max out or overclock Intel and then put it against your AMD boosted clock version. Intel will smoke AMD

Dude, AMD's boost is the same thing as Intel's turbo, and these are single-thread results where Intel are *already running at their maximum achievable clock speed*.

You're bitching that a fair race is unfair just because your horse didn't win. Trump logic!

Intel might gain something back with Rocket Late, but with a ~15% IPC improvement, they'd have to clock it above 5.3Ghz to get anything more than a miserable little single-digit lead - all at the expense of sane power consumption. RIP fanbots

AMD's boosted clock versus off-the-shelf Intel's 10th generation processor. Let's see a more fair comparison-max out or overclock Intel and then put it against your AMD boosted clock version. Intel will smoke AMD

Quote from: Alan Saldanha on November 02, 2020, 05:21:20
Well RocketLake S is the product to compare Ryzen 5000 desktop processors with. Correct me if I am wrong.

You are at least partially wrong. Both companies have different product cycles at the moment. Half of its lifetime Ryzen 5000 will be competition to Comet Lake. The other half will compete against Rocket Late. But there are also rumors about a Zen 3 refresh (Warhol) coming next year. That could be competition to Rocket Late as well.

Quote from: Execrable on November 02, 2020, 02:12:30
but Intel's 11th gen is not out yet, you can compare intel's current gen to AMD's next gen. You can only take the crown when both CPUs are out and you still win. Just like Nvidia couldn't take the crown when their GPUs released

You could have said the same about Zen 3 in mid 2020 when Intel's 10th gen became available. ^^ Intel's 11th gen is expected to be available in 6 months or so. Nobody is waiting for it. All they can offer for the upcoming months is 10th gen. So, it has to face the competition. And Intel loses its last strength, gaming.

The Rabbit was not paying attention to the Turtle,the little end engine that could did it. Face it Intel, you tick toK and 4 cored your way with FILL-IN-THE BLANK -LAKE OBSCURITY.  QUICK SYNC AND AVX512 EXCUSES WILL NOT WORK anymore
.AMD is the fast all around CPU. more cores,run cooler uses less power both in desktop and MOBILE. Use Your money to manipulate ads and reviewers. Your stock tells the truth 16% and 11% drop. Long live the king. A Red dawn will rise Nov 5th, 2020

Quote from: Execrable on November 02, 2020, 02:12:30
but Intel's 11th gen is not out yet, you can compare intel's current gen to AMD's next gen. You can only take the crown when both CPUs are out and you still win. Just like Nvidia couldn't take the crown when their GPUs released

IMHO, the game of crowns :D will not hold for much long. Intel did say double digit % IPC with RKL, but that can mean anywhere between 10 to 99%. Truth be told, if it were really close to 20%, it would have been heavily advertised by now. Even if RKL does regain lost ground, we are now at a point where I feel the argument of using Intel CPUs for gaming comparisons may not hold much weight. Again, this is just my personal understanding.

Quote from: losh11 on November 01, 2020, 22:27:54
thx for sourcing properly :D

Welcome :)

Intel's goose is well and truly cooked!
No company deserved to be kicked in the nuts more than Intel. They along with MS had been gouging the world at large with their hegemony. RIP Intel !!

Well RocketLake S is the product to compare Ryzen 5000 desktop processors with. Correct me if I am wrong.

With regards to the aforementioned benchmark results. What was the core clock of the Intel processors? Thanks.

I wouldn't put much hope on intel's next gen, in the end it's ice lake backported to 14nm + xe Graphics. And we've seen the performance gains arent that great compared to Skylake, and that was with a node shrink.

"10% faster than Core i9-10900K"

only 10%?

does it have avx512 or dlboost?

but Intel's 11th gen is not out yet, you can compare intel's current gen to AMD's next gen. You can only take the crown when both CPUs are out and you still win. Just like Nvidia couldn't take the crown when their GPUs released

*crying on 320 single, 1755 multi