Quote from: vit on November 11, 2020, 14:18:07
tarting from Win 10 2004 update ... MS disabled usual sleep mode S3 in favor of a so called Modern StandBy.

Is it no longer possible to disable Modern Standby with a simple registry tweak in 2004 and later? (I'm still running 1909 and the tweak "works" in that. It doesn't restore device power configuration tabs, but at least sleep works correctly.)

Quote from: Fazal Majid on November 02, 2020, 01:30:33
Now if only someone could come up with a 15" 3:2 display laptop...

I believe the 15" Microsoft Surface Book 2 and the 15" Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 have 3:2 displays.

Dells have an issue (unfortunately no review is able to reveal that) starting from Win 10 2004 update, in which MS disabled usual sleep mode S3 in favor of a so called Modern StandBy. This results in a wierd issue: going to sleep ends up with 50/50 BSOD + reboot or wake up. I would not recommend a Dell nowadays, unless they manage to fix this issue. The discussion on Dell support forum starts on 2020-06-03 and it is still unresolved.

Quote from: gantagavin on November 05, 2020, 13:11:35
Welp, that is a very niche market that Dell try to fill!

Between these two, I think it is better to choose LG Gram over this

And that's why it's so expensive in its basic configuration - because there isn't a lot of demand. But there is some.

The LG Gram unfortunately has a glossy screen, which is a killer. Also, you still get twice the processor performance from the XPS than from the Gram, and the diffence is 'only' 300 Euro or something.

Quote from: Dell, fix your prices! on November 01, 2020, 15:07:44
I don't understand the hate that the base model gets. I understand the hate towards the pricer/performance ratio. It's ridiculous.

But imagine this: You are one of the older generation and want a large screen, thus 17 inch is a must. You also want to use it outdoors, so a bright (350+ nits) - and matte! - screen is a must. And you are sensitive to noise, so you want it silent under light loads. Luckily, you demand only very little on terms of performance.

Now look around and find a laptop that matches that description. Apart from the LG Gram, which is also overprices, this is literally the only one on the market right now.
Trust me, I spend a lot of time researching. There are some laptops that come close, but not quite: The HP Envy has a glossy screen, the HP ProBook, Lenovo IdeaPad and Schenker Work have too dim screens and in the Gaming segment - if you can find one with a properly optimized cooling solution that stays silent - then it's thanks to the high-refresh-rate craze that you don't get a bright screen (the Acer Nitro might be a contender).

So yes, this model is overprized, but it fills a place in the market and if money isn't your main concern, it's an option people might be willing to take. Also, if necessary at some later point in time you could still go for an eGPU thanks to Thunderbolt.

Welp, that is a very niche market that Dell try to fill!

Between these two, I think it is better to choose LG Gram over this considering the wide weight difference (even better if you are sensitive to portability, especially the weight part)

Who the hell uses lots of thunderbolt connectors?  2% of the buyers??!??

If the LG Gram came with a matte screen, and an AMD cpu, it would kick Dell's butt.

 :o This gpu very hot. Design slim, Not air for Fan active

Quote from: Fazal Majid on November 02, 2020, 01:30:33
Now if only someone could come up with a 15" 3:2 display laptop...

Like the 15" Surface Laptop? Or the 15" Surface Book? If only they had better keyboards and Renoir already. And matte screens. But that aspect ratio is just yummy. The only reason why they're on my radar at all.

Quote from: ariliquin on November 02, 2020, 11:02:47
Hey Dell, when are you going to offer the CPX with AMD CPU? Still waiting............

I guess this will never happen, because the concept of the XPS is to use lots of Thunderbolt connectors

Hey Dell, when are you going to offer the CPX with AMD CPU? Still waiting............

I'm in the US, and I configured an XPS 17 with the RTX 2060 and the top i7 with the 19:10 screen. Saved me $400, battery life and eye strain. I don't do 4k editing so there was zero upside to the larger screen for me. Thanks for the review as I wanted to see how the screen faired during tests.

Quote from: Sterlinger on November 01, 2020, 13:18:01
why offering WUXGA at all? Is it to rip the customer off? I don't understand why anyone would buy it. I understand that not all want to spend extra money (and battery life) for the 3840x2400 panel but what about 2560x1600 as lowest resolution in the line-up?

Indeed, this configuration is grossly overpriced and under specced.

My 2019 LG Gram 17 has a wonderful 2560x1600 display, and I paid $1300 for it last year at Costco with a i7-8565U, 16G RAM and a 256G SSD. Adding a salvaged 16GB DIMM and a 1TB SSD in the second M.2 slot, it makes for a terrific Linux machine where lacking a dGPU is a feature, not a bug, and it is ridiculously light.

I'm sure the Dell has a better keyboard than the LG (which is still superior to a $3000 MacBook Pro, but then again what isn't?), but that doesn't make up for the underwhelming package.

Now if only someone could come up with a 15" 3:2 display laptop...

The FHD+ Screen is configurable on all models in the US. Yes the XPS17 is expensive, but the keyboard, build quality, battery life, speakers, power adapter size, and FHD+ screen are really, really good. My only dislike is the trackpad, it works funny especially when using it to Select or Drag and Drop.

Interesting that XPS 17 GTX1650 Ti model with FHD/16GB/512GB is $1,800 USD, same as the LG Gram 17 2020 model with only Intel ULV iGPU.

"However, it is unfortunate that Dell does not offer the matte FHD screen in combination with the fastest CPU/GPU options in all regions."

The 1200p screen is definitely configurable with all CPU/GPU combinations in most regions if you manage to go through both Dell's consumer and business website portals (they offer differently specced models), or just call Dell's sales rep to custom configure your XPS.

4 x Thunderbolt 3 is impressive but honestly at this point, Comet Lake is outdated (2 generations behind architecturally even if it is the current "latest" in 45W CPUs). A Tiger Lake version of this and with touchpad buttons would be fantastic.