Well on the desktop, people can simply plug in a Thunderbolt card into a PCIe slot even if they have an AMD CPU plus AMD's desktop CPUs are far ahead (and server CPUs even farther), power consumption is less of a concern vs laptops, so Intel has a bigger battle to fight.

No reason to not choose AMD until and unless Intel pulls ahead.

Quote from: Spunjji on October 07, 2020, 13:08:29

Depends which chip you want.

preferably a desktop version with avx512

Sinceramente es Ridículo INTEL siempre engañando y vendiendo Refritos. AMD con la mitad de recursos y menos ingresos esta consiguiendo lo IMPOSIBLE frente a Goliat. Los AMD Serie 5000 se esperan sean un Gran avance y muchos secretos se guardan dentro de esta nueva Arquitectura. Yo aun espero la version portatil para Enero 2021 el cual dará una paliza al TigerLake de intel a pesar de no llevar RDNA pero si nuevos VEGA mejorados. 

Quote from: JayN on October 07, 2020, 12:28:29
When will a zen3 desktop chip be available for purchase?

Depends which chip you want. Launch is tomorrow, I'd be surprised if you couldn't get those processors available at retail by the end of the month at the latest.

If this is true then Intel really are in a deep hole. We've seen with Ice Lake and Tiger Lake that Willow Cove has a solid IPC advantage over Ryzen 2, but it still needs to hit high clock speeds to realise an advantage overall. They might get the clocks from 14nm+++++ but the power consumption at those speeds with cores that wide is going to be silly, the die size will be even sillier, and they'll be competing with a mature Zen 3 and whatever corresponding IPC increases that brings.

When will a zen3 desktop chip be available for purchase?