Quote from: 255BB on September 30, 2020, 13:58:34
I think it's a typo. Look at the clock 1.8-4.2 GHz is 4800U.
While 4800H clock is 2.9-4.2 GHz.

That's exactly what I though initially. But the article is written in such a way that I though it had 2.9 GHz base clock. I didn't check. And that was a mistake. You're right, Lenovo specifies 1.8 GHz base clock which definitely looks like ULV. On the other hand, the frequency could be a typo (although, less likely).

They really should ditch the former/ later nonsense. They're overusing it and it means one has to constantly check in what order was what exactly mentioned to attribute it correctly. It's like it's part of their style guide.

I think it's a typo. Look at the clock 1.8-4.2 GHz is 4800U.
While 4800H clock is 2.9-4.2 GHz.

Quote from: YourSmolSchnitzel on September 29, 2020, 19:42:59
Also, nobody outside France wants an AZERTY keyboard - it is the most confusing thing I've typed on in my life  and I wish everyone would use the same keyboard layout...

Different layouts exist because different languages use different words. Which changes how frequently one letter follows another and therefore the sequences of movements that are common and should be efficient. That's why different layouts were designed for typewriters in different countries and then carried over to computers. Also, languages differ in alphabets. Alphabet of my mother tongue might be based on Latin, but we have about 40 letters compared to 26 in English. It's trivial to change layout in an OS. So you can type the way you're used to. And you can re-label key caps if you have to look where the letters are (of course, at the expense of backlight). Or swap them around if possible.

Sure, it would be nice if everybody spoke the same language.

#2 YourSmolSchnitzel

You shouldnt compare Zephyrus G14 with ultrabook that needs to cool down only APU. G14 needs to cool down CPU with TDP 35W and RTX 2060 (65W). It means that cooling solution needs to be  more than 2x times as efficient.  You can also check S540-13 reviews on web - it has no problems handling 4800u with 35W mode so it should be fine also with 45W CPU.

Quote from: YourSmolSchnitzel on September 29, 2020, 19:42:59
The Asus Zeschnyzel G14 with the 35 Watt AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS already throttled hard with a gaming optimised 14" chassis (people recommendes disabling turbo boost), so I have low performance expectations putting a 45 Watt CPU into a thin 13" body with weak Lenovo-typical cooling system.

BUT, I would love to see a ThinkPad T14 with 4800HS or X1 Extreme with 4800H. C'mon Mainland China... er I mean Lenovo, you can do better than Taiwan (Asus)!

Also, nobody outside France wants an AZERTY keyboard - it is the most confusing thing I've typed on in my life  and I wish everyone would use the same keyboard layout...



...followed by the metric system, electric power plugs, frequencies, charging technologies, cables, ports and currencies.

was talking about your comment but forgot to quote it. This site really needs a "reply" feature.

There's a comparison in a site between the R7 4800U and i7 1071U (both at 25W PL1) Ideapad S540 13. Since i have low post count, this site won't let me post links. Just search on Google for "ideapad s540 13 amd vs intel review" and the first result will land you on the webpage i'm talking about. The 4800U has a 42W PL2 while that 10710U's PL2 in this case is ~60W. From what i could see, that PL2 on the 4800 was sustained for longer, it even stabilized at 37W for a while until it started to slowly stabilize at ~28W @98degrees C. Temps are very high so it is unlikely that the 4800H will stay at 45W, considering that the PL1 is probably higher in most laptops with this cpu but we'll have to wait and see. Perhaps Lenovo might use the same cooling solution for the 4800H model but we can already tell that it isn't sufficient.

The Asus Zeschnyzel G14 with the 35 Watt AMD Ryzen 7 4800HS already throttled hard with a gaming optimised 14" chassis (people recommendes disabling turbo boost), so I have low performance expectations putting a 45 Watt CPU into a thin 13" body with weak Lenovo-typical cooling system.

BUT, I would love to see a ThinkPad T14 with 4800HS or X1 Extreme with 4800H. C'mon Mainland China... er I mean Lenovo, you can do better than Taiwan (Asus)!

Also, nobody outside France wants an AZERTY keyboard - it is the most confusing thing I've typed on in my life  and I wish everyone would use the same keyboard layout...



...followed by the metric system, electric power plugs, frequencies, charging technologies, cables, ports and currencies.

GG Lenovo, now only if this would've been on sale worldwide...