Quote from: DeepskyScorpion on August 10, 2020, 11:02:48
1. What evidence in solid numbers concluded by published test data do we have that pcie gen3 x8 bottlenecks a mobile full power 2070/super? 150w or 115w, whichever.

None whatsoever. I just did some more searching and found that even the 2080Ti only takes an average ~3% hit from running at PCIe 8x.

The funny bit is that even if this were true, having a competitive marketplace would mean combining these parts anyway and either selling them cheaper or letting the customer decide. But no. Apparently it's fine for OEMs to produce AMD-based laptops with single-channel RAM, but not fine for them to sell MD-based laptops with a high-end GPU because "muh 1% performance difference". Highly convincing stuff!

Quote from: Agfsfhxzafhx on August 10, 2020, 07:52:26
Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.

Absolute balderdash. Do a quick Google search and you can easily find a GamersNexus article comparing the GTX 1080 running on 8 lanes and 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0 - the performance difference is 1%. The mobile 2070 has basically the same performance as the desktop 1080, so there's your answer.

How about you stop being annoying with your repetition of falsehoods?

I have one on order. If it has this light bleed, it's going right back.

The bleeding on the screen is much to excessive for me to tolerate, if this would be corrected, this could be a good choice.

Finally something to look for.


"no per-key RGB lighting "

This what puts me off with Notebookcheck.net reviews.
In reviews the standards are not the same, did the author criticized and listed every other laptop that lacked this?

Quote from: Agfsfhxzafhx on August 10, 2020, 07:52:26
Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.

1. What evidence in solid numbers concluded by published test data do we have that pcie gen3 x8 bottlenecks a mobile full power 2070/super? 150w or 115w, whichever.

2. Renoir on desktop does have x16 sooooo

No 2.5-inch SATA III support, cannot recharge via USB-C, no per-key RGB lighting? These are some funny downsides lol. Solid review and solid laptop overall.

I don't know, 2060 Max-P design with up to 110w TDP is not that bad.

Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.