Quote from: Orangejulius on July 27, 2020, 07:14:01
That's been the problem with the RTX 2060 mobile. There are so many variations that you can't use the GPU anymore as a gauge for speed...

It's infuriating that Nvidia is allowing this confusion.

Agreed. It's also irritating when sites like this one - which have huge databases of comparative information - repeatedly fail to hold Nvidia's feet to the fire over this. Frequently you'll see new laptop reviews compared to devices only with the same GPU - not with a range above and below, or with any older devices for comparison - so we rarely get to see the full context.

Honestly, I find it extremely irritating, and actively hostile to the consumer.

Quote from: wellew on July 26, 2020, 15:59:15
What the point of this Max-Q special olympics? Doest it mean that Razer is fastest pre 2080 laptop on the market? There are also P variants and even 2060 Super with good wattage in the equation.
Also, size-wise Razer outraced by Asus G14 and cheap Ryzen iGPU laptops.

Yes AMD mobile CPU beats the competition, but Intel still have advantage of highest GPU configuration. Even worse, Nvidia released same GPU SKU with different TDP and same price, and OEM took advantage with it.

As many have stated, restricting the wattage from 80-90w on many versions and others having no wattage restriction, makes things very confusing to know the one best suited for purchase. Another factor is also that the thermal dissipation of a case versus the heat generated from certain cpu/gpu combos that will adversatively affect performance of the cpu/gpu combo also. It's imperative to read a review of the specific model you want before purchasing it, if not it's just like gambling your money away.

Isn't the general consensus that wattage is what really matters among these mobile GPUs? It's really no surprise if a card with 10-15% more wattage performs 10-15% faster than an identical card that is capped at the the lower limit.

That's been the problem with the RTX 2060 mobile. There are so many variations that you can't use the GPU anymore as a gauge for speed. Seriously, there is the RTX 2060 Max-Q in the G14 that runs at only 65 watts and mimics a 1660 TI at 80 watts within a percent or two. Then there are full older 2060 mobile cards specced at 80-90 watts that perform 5-12% faster on average than a 1660TI at the same wattage. Then there are the new 2020 refresh models with 100-115 watt specs that perform close or as well as a 2070 Max Q. It's infuriating that Nvidia is allowing this confusion.

What the point of this Max-Q special olympics? Doest it mean that Razer is fastest pre 2080 laptop on the market? There are also P variants and even 2060 Super with good wattage in the equation.
Also, size-wise Razer outraced by Asus G14 and cheap Ryzen iGPU laptops.

Quote from: toven on July 26, 2020, 08:48:48
The 2.6kg GE75 with 2070 is more powerful and cheaper.

With cheaper build quality
Much louder obnoxious fans
Runs much hotter
It  might be  slightly more powerful but it's definitely not a better laptop

2070-max-q Legion 7i can pull more than 100W. There is post on reddit mentioned max registered wattage of 128W for GPU. Sounds promising.

More performance at the same specs is one of the two main reasons...or only reasons one should choose Blade 17 over 15, the other is screen size. There's basically no other reason, with the downside of no wide gamut screen, heavier weight and IIRC smaller battery, overall minimal differentiation between these two models.

I'm surprised you didn't use the ASUS ROG Zephyrus series laptops for any of these tests.

I would really liked to have known how it would have compared with the other gaming laptops.

The 2.6kg GE75 with 2070 is more powerful and cheaper.

Razer 17 has a 100w version of 2070maxq, of course thats faster than the 80-90w version of it