Quote from: Ricci Rox on July 08, 2020, 07:44:47

Quote from: S.Yu on July 08, 2020, 03:03:04

Quote from: Ricci Rox on July 06, 2020, 17:47:50

Quote from: S.Yu on July 06, 2020, 13:39:19

Quote from: Abhishek on July 06, 2020, 12:56:40
I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Agreed. Don't fall for this crap. Look around and make smart purchases of products that follow a natural pattern of devaluation, without the price gouging by the manufacturer either by banning retail discounts(commonly seen in cosmetics and clothing) or limiting stock(like 1+ we see here).

I'm not a OnePlus fan either but from a purely economic perspective it's hard to say that this theory of artificial scarcity is logical at all. Surely, they'd sell a lot more if the phones were just listed as usual versus keeping them off the market and selling a couple thousand units once every week on flash sale?

It makes no sense imo. OnePlus phones usually have the lowest depreciation in the market either way, and so I'm not sure why OnePlus would want to go through all of this. It's a lose-lose situation, really.

Maybe the phones are really just selling well as the article infers?

It makes sense because the components depreciate, first stocking a miniscule thousands of units to sell across the first few months at lower profit, then restocking at lower costs to be sold at the same price for higher profit while most consumers are under the illusion that the terms of the deal have stayed the same, they haven't because electronics should naturally depreciate quickly in the first few months, such is their life cycle, so by limiting purchases in the first couple months forcing the consumer to buy later at the same price they mislead consumers about the actual value of their products.

Yes, valid hypothesis. But it works based on the assumption that OnePlus believes people aren't just going to, you know, buy something else instead. The S20+ is cheaper than the OnePlus 8 Pro these days, better option for most people.

OnePlus would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot.

I think the mere fact that they're still selling fine despite repeatedly screwing over their core market segment suggests that people including whoever identifies as enthusiasts under 1+'s definition pay little attention to their purchases and are vulnerable to misleading marketing tactics like this, instead of being more drawn by the specs.

Quote from: S.Yu on July 08, 2020, 03:03:04

Quote from: Ricci Rox on July 06, 2020, 17:47:50

Quote from: S.Yu on July 06, 2020, 13:39:19

Quote from: Abhishek on July 06, 2020, 12:56:40
I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Agreed. Don't fall for this crap. Look around and make smart purchases of products that follow a natural pattern of devaluation, without the price gouging by the manufacturer either by banning retail discounts(commonly seen in cosmetics and clothing) or limiting stock(like 1+ we see here).

I'm not a OnePlus fan either but from a purely economic perspective it's hard to say that this theory of artificial scarcity is logical at all. Surely, they'd sell a lot more if the phones were just listed as usual versus keeping them off the market and selling a couple thousand units once every week on flash sale?

It makes no sense imo. OnePlus phones usually have the lowest depreciation in the market either way, and so I'm not sure why OnePlus would want to go through all of this. It's a lose-lose situation, really.

Maybe the phones are really just selling well as the article infers?

It makes sense because the components depreciate, first stocking a miniscule thousands of units to sell across the first few months at lower profit, then restocking at lower costs to be sold at the same price for higher profit while most consumers are under the illusion that the terms of the deal have stayed the same, they haven't because electronics should naturally depreciate quickly in the first few months, such is their life cycle, so by limiting purchases in the first couple months forcing the consumer to buy later at the same price they mislead consumers about the actual value of their products.

Yes, valid hypothesis. But it works based on the assumption that OnePlus believes people aren't just going to, you know, buy something else instead. The S20+ is cheaper than the OnePlus 8 Pro these days, better option for most people.

OnePlus would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot.

Quote from: Ricci Rox on July 06, 2020, 17:47:50

Quote from: S.Yu on July 06, 2020, 13:39:19

Quote from: Abhishek on July 06, 2020, 12:56:40
I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Agreed. Don't fall for this crap. Look around and make smart purchases of products that follow a natural pattern of devaluation, without the price gouging by the manufacturer either by banning retail discounts(commonly seen in cosmetics and clothing) or limiting stock(like 1+ we see here).

I'm not a OnePlus fan either but from a purely economic perspective it's hard to say that this theory of artificial scarcity is logical at all. Surely, they'd sell a lot more if the phones were just listed as usual versus keeping them off the market and selling a couple thousand units once every week on flash sale?

It makes no sense imo. OnePlus phones usually have the lowest depreciation in the market either way, and so I'm not sure why OnePlus would want to go through all of this. It's a lose-lose situation, really.

Maybe the phones are really just selling well as the article infers?

It makes sense because the components depreciate, first stocking a miniscule thousands of units to sell across the first few months at lower profit, then restocking at lower costs to be sold at the same price for higher profit while most consumers are under the illusion that the terms of the deal have stayed the same, they haven't because electronics should naturally depreciate quickly in the first few months, such is their life cycle, so by limiting purchases in the first couple months forcing the consumer to buy later at the same price they mislead consumers about the actual value of their products.

Quote from: S.Yu on July 06, 2020, 13:39:19

Quote from: Abhishek on July 06, 2020, 12:56:40
I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Agreed. Don't fall for this crap. Look around and make smart purchases of products that follow a natural pattern of devaluation, without the price gouging by the manufacturer either by banning retail discounts(commonly seen in cosmetics and clothing) or limiting stock(like 1+ we see here).

I'm not a OnePlus fan either but from a purely economic perspective it's hard to say that this theory of artificial scarcity is logical at all. Surely, they'd sell a lot more if the phones were just listed as usual versus keeping them off the market and selling a couple thousand units once every week on flash sale?

It makes no sense imo. OnePlus phones usually have the lowest depreciation in the market either way, and so I'm not sure why OnePlus would want to go through all of this. It's a lose-lose situation, really.

Maybe the phones are really just selling well as the article infers?

Quote from: Abhishek on July 06, 2020, 12:56:40
I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Agreed. Don't fall for this crap. Look around and make smart purchases of products that follow a natural pattern of devaluation, without the price gouging by the manufacturer either by banning retail discounts(commonly seen in cosmetics and clothing) or limiting stock(like 1+ we see here).

I have been trying to get my hands on the OnePlus 8 Pro ever since it started appearing in the "1 minute sold off" sales. Believe me always the amazon website throws some error wherein I am not able to add the phone to cart exactly at 12:00 PM.
I guess OnePlus has become the worst company and lost its original identity among us. I have even encouraged everyone around me to stay away from OnePlus now seeing the fake marketing that they are trying to create.
Note that I sent out mails to both Amazon and OnePlus highlighting this issue in their OnePlus 8 Pro sales to which I have not received any satisfactory response yet.
They think we are fools but no more. Bye bye OnePlus.

Ohhh come on, "the stock was out in 90 seconds" is such bullshit gimmick by these companies. You guys are churning out articles just for the sake of it. Chinese companies always employ these shady tactics to create hype especially OnePlus with their invites in the early years.
I'd say they probably sold more OnePlus 7T  and even 8 units than the 8 pro with their stupid desire to compete with the most premium brands.
Unless, you have real sales figures, don't go by their fake campaigns.

Quote from: splus on July 05, 2020, 11:50:50
Lol, they put maybe 1000 units for sale each time, once a week, which sell out within minutes, and that makes it a success story??
OnePlus had been doing these low volume sales until recently and now again, just as a marketing gimmick, trying to create the hype.
Their yearly sale numbers show they haven't been as nearly as popular as people thought...

AFAICT 1+ has long lost its identity. Their pricing now approaches the most expensive flagships, they cut corners to functionality, and as a self-proclaimed enthusiast brand they don't even top the benchmarks at the moment of release. A bunch of pretenders.

Lol, they put maybe 1000 units for sale each time, once a week, which sell out within minutes, and that makes it a success story??
OnePlus had been doing these low volume sales until recently and now again, just as a marketing gimmick, trying to create the hype.
Their yearly sale numbers show they haven't been as nearly as popular as people thought...