Quote from: _MT_ on July 09, 2020, 10:33:27

Quote from: S.Yu on July 09, 2020, 00:34:43
Well the savings are never passed on but I do believe they're correct in saying people have enough chargers to go around, and if they need faster chargers 3rd party selection is far superior.

Even if they were, selling a bundle is cheaper than selling separate items. The saving would never amount to the price of a separate charger.

Problem is that third party offerings are rarely as good. Selection might be superior, but quality is not. And the ones from dubious brands can be downright dangerous (not only they can pose a fire hazard, they can damage a device). Power supply is really not the best place to save money.

I'm against waste. So, on one hand, I agree (you should only get what you need). On the other hand, because I don't like waste, I tend to use devices for a long time. Long enough for standards to change. Long enough to get a good use out of a power supply where I don't mind replacing it with a fresh one. I also don't care for selling an incomplete package when I decide to get rid of something. Even if I were to get a charger separately (because there was none or as a replacement for a failed unit), I'm likely to sell it with the device for which I got it. Who wants to hunt around for a compatible charger? And who wants to keep obsolete chargers? Which also means that I don't have a ton of chargers lying around - I get it with a device, I sell it with the device. That being said, phones tend to support wireless charging which I like. And those are the only chargers I reuse.

Power supplies make an interesting conundrum in desktop computers. Because a power supply can damage other components when it fails. If you upgrade often and you have a quality power supply, sure, reuse it. But after a few years, just how much you trust that power supply not to destroy your new components? It's going to be a similar story with phones. Perhaps most people won't give it any thought. But when you buy a new expensive phone, just how much do you trust your old charger?

Strange, stick to brands like Anker and Rock you should be fine, chargers really aren't rocket science.

Quote from: S.Yu on July 09, 2020, 00:34:43
Well the savings are never passed on but I do believe they're correct in saying people have enough chargers to go around, and if they need faster chargers 3rd party selection is far superior.

Even if they were, selling a bundle is cheaper than selling separate items. The saving would never amount to the price of a separate charger.

Problem is that third party offerings are rarely as good. Selection might be superior, but quality is not. And the ones from dubious brands can be downright dangerous (not only they can pose a fire hazard, they can damage a device). Power supply is really not the best place to save money.

I'm against waste. So, on one hand, I agree (you should only get what you need). On the other hand, because I don't like waste, I tend to use devices for a long time. Long enough for standards to change. Long enough to get a good use out of a power supply where I don't mind replacing it with a fresh one. I also don't care for selling an incomplete package when I decide to get rid of something. Even if I were to get a charger separately (because there was none or as a replacement for a failed unit), I'm likely to sell it with the device for which I got it. Who wants to hunt around for a compatible charger? And who wants to keep obsolete chargers? Which also means that I don't have a ton of chargers lying around - I get it with a device, I sell it with the device. That being said, phones tend to support wireless charging which I like. And those are the only chargers I reuse.

Power supplies make an interesting conundrum in desktop computers. Because a power supply can damage other components when it fails. If you upgrade often and you have a quality power supply, sure, reuse it. But after a few years, just how much you trust that power supply not to destroy your new components? It's going to be a similar story with phones. Perhaps most people won't give it any thought. But when you buy a new expensive phone, just how much do you trust your old charger?

Well the savings are never passed on but I do believe they're correct in saying people have enough chargers to go around, and if they need faster chargers 3rd party selection is far superior.