Quote from: Frodo on July 05, 2020, 13:42:33

QuotePerformance today is not the issue, it's longevity. Future apps will demand more power, and using a newer SoC means the device will have acceptable performance for slightly longer than if using a SoC that is already outdated at launch.

Do you have any proof for this? Which future apps are coming that will demand more power? Which apps can not be run on phones that are 3-4 years old today?

Microsoft can always release more powerful models if there is demand, but going with a device that's $100 cheaper because it's on a 855 will help adoption in the beginning.

lmao? You think MS is one to lower the price of a product because it runs dated hardware? Are you aware that both generations of Surface Studio have had obsolete hardware at launch yet were both prohibitively expensive? Even Surface Go is overpriced. The hardware suggests a 30% lower price than its MSRP.

QuotePerformance today is not the issue, it's longevity. Future apps will demand more power, and using a newer SoC means the device will have acceptable performance for slightly longer than if using a SoC that is already outdated at launch.

Do you have any proof for this? Which future apps are coming that will demand more power? Which apps can not be run on phones that are 3-4 years old today?

Microsoft can always release more powerful models if there is demand, but going with a device that's $100 cheaper because it's on a 855 will help adoption in the beginning.

Quote from: Frodo on July 04, 2020, 20:52:44

QuoteMicrosoft won't want to bring a pellet shooter to a gun fight.

Why do tech websites always make such a fuzz when it comes to the SoCs? The 855 is perfectly fine—this isn't a phone that needs to take 8K videos, and it's not meant to be a gaming handheld, either. No one cares about the performance differences as long as using the device is smooth.

And even if Microsoft would use the 865, everyone would then have their thumbs up their butts about how expensive the device is.

Performance today is not the issue, it's longevity. Future apps will demand more power, and using a newer SoC means the device will have acceptable performance for slightly longer than if using a SoC that is already outdated at launch.

Two questions that I can't seem to find answers to:

1) Will Microsoft be able to break free of the "one and done" OS update practice that is utilized by most other Android hardware OEMs? 🤔

2) Microsoft limited the final set of Lumia phones to providers whose networks were GSM based. The phones were never submitted for CDMA certification. This rendered them irrelevant for customers of Verizon Wireless, Sprint and US Cellular in the US.

Will Microsoft now submit the Duo to all carriers for acceptance now that CDMA networks are being replaced by VoLTE? 🤔

QuoteMicrosoft won't want to bring a pellet shooter to a gun fight.

Why do tech websites always make such a fuzz when it comes to the SoCs? The 855 is perfectly fine—this isn't a phone that needs to take 8K videos, and it's not meant to be a gaming handheld, either. No one cares about the performance differences as long as using the device is smooth.

And even if Microsoft would use the 865, everyone would then have their thumbs up their butts about how expensive the device is.

Design inside and screen to body ratio is poor, but it's nothing compared to what's coming in android space - foldables at about flagship price(1200$£€).
OS matters, but it got to be on similar lvl with hw, otherwise it's only great OS in sh@%! body.

Nice tshirt :)