Quote from: RSS on June 26, 2020, 22:01:13
Tov  -  Those compare websites all the numbers are fake.
       And thats a "U" processor, not a 6 or 8 core variant...

Check out Ampere Altra. It's pretty obvious that ARM is ahead in the cloud computing industry and Intel is WAY BEHIND, all Apple has to do now is probably introduce a Mac variant A processor and Intel will be light years behind.

Tov  -  Those compare websites all the numbers are fake.
       And thats a "U" processor, not a 6 or 8 core variant...

Those Geekbench benchmark comparing ARM to x86 are BS.

Yes, on paper Apple silicon is as fast a a modern Intel i7.
But a lot a reviewers used actual comparable software for photo/video editing mostly, and i7 wipes the floor with ARM everytime

Quote from: KiKi on June 26, 2020, 05:17:09
Apple arm chip would be great in Macbook air and the pro 13 but this chip is far away from intel i7 or i9 and it will be far away in 2 years as well. Arm based macbook only benefit apple as they dont need to pay intel for the chips, macbook pro will be slower for the same or higher price but the software hardware integration will be better so they can claim it will be better for us...

https://gadgetversus.com/processor/intel-core-i7-8565u-vs-apple-a13-bionic/

Apple arm chip would be great in Macbook air and the pro 13 but this chip is far away from intel i7 or i9 and it will be far away in 2 years as well. Arm based macbook only benefit apple as they dont need to pay intel for the chips, macbook pro will be slower for the same or higher price but the software hardware integration will be better so they can claim it will be better for us...

Apple has to rip off somebody to get a new edge! With ARM technology they can steal Raspberry PI tech and claim it's their own. Just like they did with Xerox when the Mac was introduced...You know that tiny screened Black and White computer with no balls. When they had a in House 6502 color machine that was better and competitors using 4096 colors with preemptive multitasking! Jobs almost bankrupted them but he was some big hero? NOOOO!

I've had the same experience as another poster.  I bought a PowerPC-based super Mac and, six months later, it was obsolete after Apple switched to Intel chips.

I'll never let myself get burned by Apple again.

1997 all over again... Apple's bringing CPUs in house. Power PCs were better and faster than Apple's chips in '97... Jobs got rehired, cancelled contract with competitors then upgraded the operating system to not function on old processors, that's why Jobs and Apple will never get my support or sympathy. Bought a $2500 Power PC and 6 months later it's a brick, with Adobe following suit... offer third party products then crush them when they get better than your product. History repeats.
search:"PowerPC applications are no longer supported"

I have my doubts about this. It is not a bad CPU - and it does not seem to have been critically bad - that makes a strategic change.

I think Intel failures to change process and even more the fact there is critical mass to start integrating between mobile OS and general propose OS apps. Today a smartphone has comparable CPU capability as a typical office laptop so it is ripe for integration.

Besides they did not choose AMD

Just say "Apple" ? No need for "the OEM" to be interjected like that.