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Posted by doa379
 - May 29, 2020, 21:59:51
It's a major problem. It's a major problem getting products right.
What a major problem.
Posted by passenger
 - May 25, 2020, 16:21:35
so still 16:9
still only one sodimm slot even on T non-s 15" model
you want more sodimm slots? why not buy the lower-tier L lineup where we also limit your screen brightness, battery size, and all other things whether you've thought of or not.

bravo, lenovo. your product line is so attractive that I would just grab a XPS 15 or XPS 17.
Posted by 123
 - May 24, 2020, 09:49:03
Quote from: Alex544 on May 24, 2020, 00:41:18
lol
they look sort of similar on the outside so surely the motherboards used today are basically the same motherboards they used years ago!
They sometimes are. This is especially evident for Thinkpads, which often get 2-3 laptop generations out of the same chassis and motherboard layout.
Posted by Alex544
 - May 24, 2020, 00:41:18
Quote from: davids on May 24, 2020, 00:33:32
Quote from: fdslka;jfdkls;a on May 23, 2020, 20:08:56
For those who are frustrated about the timing and availability of Ryzen 4000 laptops, have a listen to the latest podcast of the full nerd with Frank Azor from AMD. He used to work for Dell and has a lot of insight into how OEM's make design decisions. The long and short of it is that designing a laptop takes about 9-12 months and decisions about the CPU (which dictates the motherboard design, thermal design etc.) are made many months in advance of the final product being released. All of the early Ryzen 4000 laptops are from companies who took a risk and decided to use AMD before the full reveal at CES, before it was confirmed exactly how fast and efficient they would be. Intel has been the safe bet in laptops for over 10 years, but expect to see more AMD laptops later in the year.   

So why do the laptops look the same every year if they are in development for a whole year? Seems more like PR more than anything else. These companies just need an excuse for why they are giving the people a bad deal.

lol
they look sort of similar on the outside so surely the motherboards used today are basically the same motherboards they used years ago!
Posted by davids
 - May 24, 2020, 00:33:32
Quote from: fdslka;jfdkls;a on May 23, 2020, 20:08:56
For those who are frustrated about the timing and availability of Ryzen 4000 laptops, have a listen to the latest podcast of the full nerd with Frank Azor from AMD. He used to work for Dell and has a lot of insight into how OEM's make design decisions. The long and short of it is that designing a laptop takes about 9-12 months and decisions about the CPU (which dictates the motherboard design, thermal design etc.) are made many months in advance of the final product being released. All of the early Ryzen 4000 laptops are from companies who took a risk and decided to use AMD before the full reveal at CES, before it was confirmed exactly how fast and efficient they would be. Intel has been the safe bet in laptops for over 10 years, but expect to see more AMD laptops later in the year.   

So why do the laptops look the same every year if they are in development for a whole year? Seems more like PR more than anything else. These companies just need an excuse for why they are giving the people a bad deal.
Posted by fdslka;jfdkls;a
 - May 23, 2020, 20:08:56
For those who are frustrated about the timing and availability of Ryzen 4000 laptops, have a listen to the latest podcast of the full nerd with Frank Azor from AMD. He used to work for Dell and has a lot of insight into how OEM's make design decisions. The long and short of it is that designing a laptop takes about 9-12 months and decisions about the CPU (which dictates the motherboard design, thermal design etc.) are made many months in advance of the final product being released. All of the early Ryzen 4000 laptops are from companies who took a risk and decided to use AMD before the full reveal at CES, before it was confirmed exactly how fast and efficient they would be. Intel has been the safe bet in laptops for over 10 years, but expect to see more AMD laptops later in the year.   
Posted by adev
 - May 23, 2020, 15:39:40
I am okay with that legacy Intel if it will get the job done. Also, I'm totally aware of discounts on Lenovo site. But those prices are total insanity.

L14 i3 4Gb ram $1400 and up to $2000 for mediocre outdated devices. Good luck Lenovo.
Posted by Mate
 - May 23, 2020, 14:24:16
#5
Probably demand on ryzens 4000 is huge now and AMD cant produce enough chips. Everyone knows that 10gen Intel CPUs are no match at all.

Posted by The Scott
 - May 23, 2020, 14:18:06
It seems a lot of OEMs are releasing AMD-based notebooks AFTER updated Intel-based systems. The question is, Why?
Posted by kill Lenovo
 - May 23, 2020, 13:46:39
We dont care about fucking Intel with fucking thunberbolt backdoor.
We want Ryzen models.

Stick this to your a** lenovo.
Posted by Benjamin Herzig
 - May 23, 2020, 12:27:57
@pitchdown,
it is pretty common for ThinkPads that not all options are available right from the start.
Posted by pitchdown
 - May 23, 2020, 12:06:31
Why is the LCD-option 500 nits full hd touchscreen not visible? This was an option for the T14S when reading the specs last months.
Posted by davids
 - May 23, 2020, 11:37:05
So it's just the same re-branded models from last year, with same performance and soldered RAM. Great offer Lenovo! Maybe for next year they should remove the headphone jack and other ports as well.
Posted by Redaktion
 - May 23, 2020, 11:13:31
Lenovo's mainstream 2020 ThinkPads are available for purchase in the US now. This includes the T, X and L series with models like the ThinkPad T14, ThinkPad X13 and ThinkPad L14. However, only the Intel models are available as of now. The ThinkPads with AMD Ryzen 4000 will follow in June.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T14s-X13-L14-L15-T15-are-now-available-in-the-US-with-Intel-Comet-Lake.466309.0.html