Quote from: Rafael on May 25, 2020, 17:39:55The part number for the Spanish version is in the post you quoted: 4Y40X49506. Try searching for that in any relevant online stores, through price comparison web sites, or just searching the web for it. The Norwegian one is starting to show up in business-oriented online stores (not in stock, just listed, some with an ETA of June 2nd), but is yet to be listed on any price comparison sites, with Lenovo itself or in consumer-facing retailers.
I'm looking for spanish keyboard too
have you got it?
where could I buy it?
Thank you.Quote from: Dantreest on May 12, 2020, 21:26:24
I think will be one with Nordic layout, at the end of the commercial draft are serial numbers that includes part numbers for other layouts such as Spanish that is the one I'm interested in. https : / / news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES .pdf
I found all of these
Part Numbers (PN)4Y40X49493 : US English4Y40X49496: Canadian French ACNOR4Y40X49498: Canadian French (058)4Y40X49499 : LA Spanish4Y40X49500 : Brazil Portuguese4Y40X49501: Arabic4Y40X49502 : Belgian4Y40X49503 : Bulgarian4Y40X49504 : Danish4Y40X49505 : Spanish4Y40X49506 : French4Y40X49507 : German4Y40X49508 : Greek4Y40X49509 : Hebrew4Y40X49510: Hungarian4Y40X49511: Icelandic4Y40X49512: Italian4Y40X49513: Norwegian4Y40X49514: Portuguese4Y40X49515: Russian4Y40X49516: Slovenian4Y40X49517: Swedish/Finnish4Y40X49518: Swiss4Y40X49519: Turkish
4Y40X49520 : UK English4Y40X49521: US English Euro4Y40X49522 : Japanese4Y40X49523 : Traditional Chinese4Y40X49524 : Turkish-F4Y40X49525 : Estonian4Y40X49526: Canadian French English4Y40X49527 : Nordic4Y40X49528 : Czech/Slovak
Quote from: Dantreest on May 12, 2020, 21:26:24
I think will be one with Nordic layout, at the end of the commercial draft are serial numbers that includes part numbers for other layouts such as Spanish that is the one I'm interested in. https : / / news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES .pdf
I found all of these
Part Numbers (PN)4Y40X49493 : US English4Y40X49496: Canadian French ACNOR4Y40X49498: Canadian French (058)4Y40X49499 : LA Spanish4Y40X49500 : Brazil Portuguese4Y40X49501: Arabic4Y40X49502 : Belgian4Y40X49503 : Bulgarian4Y40X49504 : Danish4Y40X49505 : Spanish4Y40X49506 : French4Y40X49507 : German4Y40X49508 : Greek4Y40X49509 : Hebrew4Y40X49510: Hungarian4Y40X49511: Icelandic4Y40X49512: Italian4Y40X49513: Norwegian4Y40X49514: Portuguese4Y40X49515: Russian4Y40X49516: Slovenian4Y40X49517: Swedish/Finnish4Y40X49518: Swiss4Y40X49519: Turkish
4Y40X49520 : UK English4Y40X49521: US English Euro4Y40X49522 : Japanese4Y40X49523 : Traditional Chinese4Y40X49524 : Turkish-F4Y40X49525 : Estonian4Y40X49526: Canadian French English4Y40X49527 : Nordic4Y40X49528 : Czech/Slovak
Quote from: Benjamin Herzig on May 15, 2020, 12:39:57I know, the part numbers were published back at CES (https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES.pdf). Didn't know the Swe/Fin version had shown up though, that's a good sign - at least there are then some ISO layouts in the wild.
@Valantar,
the parts for the Nordic layouts are listed here: https://news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ThinkPad-TrackPoint-Keyboard-II_Commercial_Draft_CES.pdf
Seems though like Norwegian (4Y40X49513) has not hit the shelfs yet. But Swedish/Finish (4Y40X49517) is already listed in some shops
Quote from: lazyway on May 15, 2020, 05:12:27AFAIK that wasn't possible with the previous ones either - at least I've never been able to do so. You'll get used to it though (I keep pressing Fn instead of Ctrl on my Dell laptop just because I'm so used to the ThinkPad layout!).
I just received my ThinkPad TrackPoint II. Overall Great improvement over the original. I'm using the wireless dongle instead of BT.
Note: As of 5/14/2020, the supplied driver for this keyboard does not allow the user to swap the Fn and Ctrl like the way you can on the native keyboard in BIOS... :(
Quote from: Vlad on April 28, 2020, 09:30:48Well, when programming, I mostly use just 0 as a default value for initialization. And I certainly don't use numeric keyboard for that. It would be slower. Even on a layout without numeric row where I have to use combination of keys (as in our national layout as we have over 40 letters in our alphabet rather than 26 so we have four rows of letters for faster writing). And while I sometimes need larger blocks of static data, I usually copy them into the code (I'm not inventing it on the spot, it's coming from somewhere), use regular expressions for transformation if necessary and format them. For one, I'm lazy. And it reduces chances of human error. It's rare that I write numbers large enough to be annoying (the annoying part is mainly having to switch left and right hand for different numbers as I have to hold shift) but small enough to do them by hand. I guess the biggest exception is graphics and GUI work - dimensions, positions, colours.
I think it's time to kill the numpad as default in keyboards, be it laptop or dekstop. You can always buy an additional numeric keyboard for cheap, but I (and know absolutely nobody) use that part of it and am talking about use in office work like software development.