if you don't like it, don't buy it, if you can't buy it build it!

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... on Dell executive meeting.
Executive: - We need to beat Apple and make XPS a better laptop!
Engineering: - But we can't make a better laptop while we're stuck with Intel CPUs.
Exec: - OK, fine, at least match them!
Marketing: - We already designed booklets and competitive price, just a bit higher than Apple's, so we could slash it on the 2nd day after release and show that the laptop is on sale!
Engineering: - We can have the same specs on paper, but if we plop all components together we'll need a case twice larger than the old XPS. Or we need to cut something.
Chief of Design: - But we created a newer case already!
Engineering: - Let me see. %^@#%* WHAT? THIS?
Exec: - Yes! We like it. It's like Apple, only better: see that SD card slot? Marketing: It's going to be our main selling point and killer feature! Apple will quake in its boots!
Engineering: - What about performance?! What about cooling? What about compatibility?
Exec: - Enough of that nonsense. Just fit in the specs we need. Marketing will do the rest.
... some time later ...
Engineering: - OK, there you are.
Dell XPS 7500 - newest processors on paper, still slower than MBP16.
Same fingerprint-magnet palm rest. Newer, more expensive CPUs, that are still not a match for Ryzen. Speakers and webcam still sucks. Battery life worse even than old XPS. No USB-A ports. No HDMI. Massive power brick. Newer graphics card, which will probably perform the same as old, but we've got to show we're innovating. But we've got SD card and Wifi-6 (who cares that no one has wifi6 routers and if the internet behind the router is still slow even for wifi5?) Oh, and the price is higher than the previous model, just as you asked.
Exec: - See? Was that hard? let's push them to the market!!!

Up to 25 houes battery life is misleading because the i5-10300H model do not have an option to put a 86WHr battery in it.

Quote from: drspychology on May 15, 2020, 11:04:11
USB C isn't there yet. There are no high quality USB C mice available
and unless you have a keyboard with a removable cable, you need USB A, USB C is a rarity on displays,... You need to go out of your way to get USB C and often have to give up quality for it. On top of this, why not include a single USB A and HDMI port for convenience until it's completely integrated? Because I haven't been in a meeting room that had a USB C projector or even a single USB C stick in the room.

We're talking about laptops, not desktops. Desktops usually have a plenty of USB-A ports. On the contrary, USB-C ports can be few and far between. Personally, I tend to connect keyboard and mouse to display (I like displays with USB hubs). So, USB-A works perfectly. It's trivial to swap the cable between display and computer to suit the computer. If we're talking about fixed set-up at home for a laptop, a dock makes perfect sense (surely you don't want to connect everything one by one). Again, USB-A is not a problem. And on the go, a lot of people use wireless. There are plenty of Bluetooth mice that don't require a dongle. Yes, if you want to use a wired mouse on the go, you've got tough luck. Surely, that's a small minority (one into which I used to belong - I was afraid I would forget the mouse somewhere if it was wireless).

Quote from: _MT_ on May 14, 2020, 11:12:37
Well, you just sometimes need to rip the band-aid off. MacBooks have certainly accelerated that future. USB-C has been a reality for quite some time. So, I hope we're talking about legacy accessories and nobody is buying USB-A devices anymore if they can avoid it. Or they shouldn't complain. That is if their machine has enough USB-C ports. Since there are the "neither here nor there" laptops that offer both but perhaps not enough of either. What do you need that's not available with USB-C? Today. It's 2020, not 2015.

Sometimes, it's better to just buy a new cable rather than a dongle. Sure, for something like a conference room where the cable is already there, a dongle might be appropriate. For me, no big deal. I can just keep it in the laptop bag in case I need it. Or even better, one of the small port expanders. Not ideal but not a big deal. For me, it would be occasional use, not daily use.

USB C isn't there yet. There are no high quality USB C mice available
and unless you have a keyboard with a removable cable, you need USB A, USB C is a rarity on displays,... You need to go out of your way to get USB C and often have to give up quality for it. On top of this, why not include a single USB A and HDMI port for convenience until it's completely integrated? Because I haven't been in a meeting room that had a USB C projector or even a single USB C stick in the room.

Why are they showing battery life for core i5 + 86Wh combo, when you cannot even configure i5 with 86Wh battery.

Quote from: Brenden on May 14, 2020, 01:21:18
Does anyone know what happened to the white version shown on Dell's China storefront?

It was deemed racist and removed.

pitty it uses inferior CPU, which generates tons of heat and produces security bugs as a product.

Quote from: DougJudy on May 13, 2020, 20:19:09
USB-C is great and once adoption becomes more widespread it could be feasible to live with no USB A and no hdmi, that future is far away unfortunately so this is just stupid, now everyone will need to buy a bunch of dongles that either break, are forgotten at home when needed or simply lost, makes no sense

Well, you just sometimes need to rip the band-aid off. MacBooks have certainly accelerated that future. USB-C has been a reality for quite some time. So, I hope we're talking about legacy accessories and nobody is buying USB-A devices anymore if they can avoid it. Or they shouldn't complain. That is if their machine has enough USB-C ports. Since there are the "neither here nor there" laptops that offer both but perhaps not enough of either. What do you need that's not available with USB-C? Today. It's 2020, not 2015.

Sometimes, it's better to just buy a new cable rather than a dongle. Sure, for something like a conference room where the cable is already there, a dongle might be appropriate. For me, no big deal. I can just keep it in the laptop bag in case I need it. Or even better, one of the small port expanders. Not ideal but not a big deal. For me, it would be occasional use, not daily use.

Kdybych si měl teď vybrat jakýkoliv notebook, byl by to tento Dell XPS 15 9500:)

Will the XPS 15 9500 be available as a 2-in-1 ?

Does anyone know what happened to the white version shown on Dell's China storefront?

The giant trackpad is going to get into the way of typing. Even with the great trackpad software and palm rejection on the Macbooks, they still get plenty of complaints. The selection of ports is stupid to exclude USB-A.

Competing with Apple doesn't mean to become Apple. A lot of good things in this laptop including the 16:10 screen, new speakers and hopefully reliable keyboard, but don't need to copy the drawbacks of Apple.

Use your own brain, decide for yourself and stop copying Apple's stupid decisions.

Looks good, 16:10 display is nice but no OLED option is a real downgrade from last XPS 15, no buy for me.

This is the big announcement?  What a joke