Quote from: william blake on April 30, 2020, 22:11:01

Quote from: Micha34 on April 30, 2020, 14:40:11
The 14nm i7-10510U outperforms the 7nm Ryzen 4700U in tasks that require 1 core!?

nope. if you will count power or battery life. intel is selling desktop processors in laptops now. intel one core boost-more energy than entire 8 zen-2 cores.
fx-9590 #2

What? A 15w processor a desktop processor!? Comet lake processors consume less energy than ice lake or Ryzen 7...

So what means « The score also puts it well ahead of the Core i7-1065G7, while its single-core score is about 80 shy of the Core i7-10510U » ?

Quote from: Micha34 on April 30, 2020, 14:40:11
The 14nm i7-10510U outperforms the 7nm Ryzen 4700U in tasks that require 1 core!?

nope. if you will count power or battery life. intel is selling desktop processors in laptops now. intel one core boost-more energy than entire 8 zen-2 cores.
fx-9590 #2

The 14nm i7-10510U outperforms the 7nm Ryzen 4700U in tasks that require 1 core!?

Quote from: A on April 30, 2020, 01:42:57
And most weird yet, the power cord is not included with AC adapter! So you gotta pay an extra $2-8 for the cord... not picking one isn't an option. (I know that isn't a lot but it feels like a very low blow nickle-n-diming)

If not picking one isn't an option, then it's not paying extra and it is included (at least the cheapest one). Normally, they use relative prices in configurators, so that's a bit unusual (maybe the $0 option isn't available and this is an artifact). But it doesn't really change anything. They have it separate because there are multiple options. It always costs something. They just usually don't tell you. As long as the from price includes it, it's no problem IMHO.

Now you have me wondering what is the difference between them to warrant different prices. I understand that different power supplies might have different prices, but cords for the same supply? I guess they might be for different regions and some less way less. That's the best I can come up with right now.

Quote from: A on April 30, 2020, 02:37:39
It should be noted this is a "ProBook"

yes. sorry, automatic typing and thinking the prices not names.

Holy crap... This thing is LITERALLY DOUBLE the price of the Lenovo offering of 4500U and 4700U, both when configured cheapest or best specs.
and this thing is freaking ugly, and from a notoriously low quality company. Fan noise is almost certain, that case looks like a closed tin can.

Quote from: william blake on April 30, 2020, 02:19:28

QuoteMaxed out configurations cost well over US$2,000, with HP charging US$227.00 just for upgrading from a Ryzen 3 4300U to a Ryzen 7 4700U.

you gotta be kidding me. "just". first of all, 227 for a 4 extra cores is the most fair upgrade in elitebook history.

It should be noted this is a "ProBook" which is a step down from an "EliteBook" (which in itself is a step down from a zbook)

Yes, confusing I know but according to HP, ProBook despite its name isn't even a workstation!

They should just name it with an easier to understand name of CashGrabBook

QuoteMaxed out configurations cost well over US$2,000, with HP charging US$227.00 just for upgrading from a Ryzen 3 4300U to a Ryzen 7 4700U.

you gotta be kidding me. "just". first of all, 227 for a 4 extra cores is the most fair upgrade in elitebook history.
second..look at this(intel sibling):
-celeron 2/2---base
-i3 2/4---------------168 usd
-i3 2/4+mx130----233 usd (yes, 28nm maxwell)
-i5 4/8---------------278 usd
-i5 4/8+mx130----344 usd
-i5 4/8+mx250----377 usd
-i7 6/12-------------710 usd
-i7 6/12+mx130--797 usd
-i7 6/12+mx250--841 usd
they are selling s*** as a much better product btw. consumers must be informed by the media, with the strong and clear recommendations.
oem must be trashed by the media.
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other things
still tn 220nit option (elite my a**)
32 gb max for intel, 16 gb for amd
1tb ssd max for intel, 512 for amd
no windows installed option

What kind of overpriced nonsense is this? Where do they even get 768px screens from? Are those still being made? For only $30 extra you get 1080p but then it has terrible 250nits. And only by paying $200 more do you get 1000nit screen but nothing in between. They charge over $200 to upgrade to a 4700U, not even 4800U, the 16gb ram sets you back another $300.

Hell it comes default with a 500gb spin disk drive! And if you want to upgrade to 1tb or 128gb that costs over $100.

And most weird yet, the power cord is not included with AC adapter! So you gotta pay an extra $2-8 for the cord... not picking one isn't an option. (I know that isn't a lot but it feels like a very low blow nickle-n-diming)

This is a pretty darn big rip off if I've seen one. I would skip it.