Quote from: gruffi on April 17, 2020, 13:31:14

Quote from: Bogdan Solca on April 16, 2020, 20:14:52
I find it hard to believe that AMD could skip 2021. Starting with 2017, AMD has been launching a new desktop Ryzen family every year. Moreover, AMD already secured allocations for 5 nm wafers, why wait until 2022 to release the Ryzen 5000 desktop CPUs? Full stack could mean that server-grade CPUs may be launching in 2022.

AMD won't skip 2021. But according to their product cycle of 14-16 months they can't launch a new generation every year. It's like Zen 3 Q4 2020, Zen 4 Q1 2022. So, actually Zen 3 will cover 2021.

Latest estimation for Zen 3 launch is September this year, as far as I know. I'm confident AMD can manage a Q4 2021 Zen 4 desktop CPU launch  :)

Quote from: Bogdan Solca on April 16, 2020, 20:14:52
I find it hard to believe that AMD could skip 2021. Starting with 2017, AMD has been launching a new desktop Ryzen family every year. Moreover, AMD already secured allocations for 5 nm wafers, why wait until 2022 to release the Ryzen 5000 desktop CPUs? Full stack could mean that server-grade CPUs may be launching in 2022.

AMD won't skip 2021. But according to their product cycle of 14-16 months they can't launch a new generation every year. It's like Zen 3 Q4 2020, Zen 4 Q1 2022. So, actually Zen 3 will cover 2021.

Quote from: Bogdan Solca on April 16, 2020, 20:14:52
I find it hard to believe that AMD could skip 2021. Starting with 2017, AMD has been launching a new desktop Ryzen family every year. Moreover, AMD already secured allocations for 5 nm wafers, why wait until 2022 to release the Ryzen 5000 desktop CPUs? Full stack could mean that server-grade CPU may be launching in 2022.

Well, Ryzen 4000 desktop is rumoured to be late 2020, more than 12 months after Ryzen 3000. Lisa Su herself has confirmed they are targeting 12-18 months between releases, so it is plausable to have Ryzen 4000 in late 2020 and Ryzen 5000 in early 2022.

Quote from: JayN on April 16, 2020, 17:23:42
From an Anandtech article, March 5, 2020 by Dr. Ian Cutress:

"We asked AMD for clarification, and they stated that in this sort of graph, we should interpret it as the full stack of Genoa should be formally launched by the end of 2022."

I find it hard to believe that AMD could skip 2021. Starting with 2017, AMD has been launching a new desktop Ryzen family every year. Moreover, AMD already secured allocations for 5 nm wafers, why wait until 2022 to release the Ryzen 5000 desktop CPUs? Full stack could mean that server-grade CPUs may be launching in 2022.

will we seen hexascale arch in Zen4/5?

SMIC doesn't have 7nm nor do they claim so, it's a pure DUV 8nm-ish process, likely comparable to Samsung's 8nm.

QuoteZhuke 12 and Nanke 18

Such needlessly exotic sounding names when Zhuke means Hsinchu (Xinzhu) Science Park and Nanke means Tainan Science Park.

From an Anandtech article, March 5, 2020 by Dr. Ian Cutress:

"We asked AMD for clarification, and they stated that in this sort of graph, we should interpret it as the full stack of Genoa should be formally launched by the end of 2022."