Oh that 120hz I P[ISS MY AS]S 66% sRGB panel?

They should've gone for a 120Hz TN panel (N156HHE-GA1), that offers way better colours than 1080p IPS panels...

Whoever put this war crime atrocity of this panel must be executed in the gulag!

And f*** thin bezels; these are responsible for this s*** panel

currently a proud owner of y540. besides a malfunction with battery that was replaced...no issues. but i want to get away from intel cpus. they keep getting slower with new bios and OS mitigation patches and kind hot on gaming without fan underneath..even if i repaste it and undervoltage it. Plus 4hours battery is just ok i want more..my 144hz ips screen is great and what i cant live without now is that all major ports are in the rear!!!   8) that is a must to have in laptops. it is also my docked desktop because of that. the day i find online sales for Lenovo Legion Ryzen 4000 series i am buying it and sell my existing one.- ;D

just tell if AMD has something to offer is value segment or i5 is only way to go.

Quote from: Frans on April 03, 2020, 16:20:04

Quote from: Greg on April 03, 2020, 16:16:25
We're tired of gaming laptops with nvidia GPUs. Can we get laptops without graphics cards now? Just the Renoir APU. thanks

That would be fantastic. A Ryzen 4000H without any dGPU would be great for compiling or any other CPU/Cor- bound work.

Wait, people actually compile large programs without any access to the internet or a corp network? At all? We've moved towards cloud-based compilation years ago, even at university, this has long been a thing. This way, developers with cheap ARM chromebooks can do the same quality of work as someone who blew $3000 on a Macbook Pro.

This also ensures the code can work with the entire dev/prod infrastructure, which is also cloud-based (and very unlikely to be completely resident on a single laptop).

In the end, asymmetrically increasing CPU power in a laptop makes very little sense. An U series 15/25W chip makes far more sense in this application, since compilation is still largely single threaded. One can compile a massive system using multiple threads, but that usually only happens a few times, to onboard a project onto a new dev system. Most individual code contributions are only compilable using a single thread, anyways, so the single threaded boost of an U series is more than enough. That is, if the system is only compiled locally on an individual laptop, for whatever reason.

This is what we have seen in the real world. Using a different example, even Linux kernel developers don't have to deal much with massive compilation times (after initial) - most changes only require recompiling a very small part of the kernel.

That being said, maybe something like Unreal Engine or Unity is less flexible, but those are also GPU-heavy development environments.

Finally, Lenovo!
You can expect more AMD Lenovo laptops as Intel left them on ice with nothing. These looks nice, looking for the new Yoga Slim 7.
So can't wait for announcements

Quote from: Aastra on April 03, 2020, 18:43:09
But why limit it too 4800H. Why can't they give it upto 4900H?

same, better binned 8 cores. do we really care about this?

This is better than asus tuf series. At least this has a option of good quality screen. But why limit it too 4800H. Why can't they give it upto 4900H?

Quote from: Valantar on April 03, 2020, 16:49:25
AMD confirmed at CES that OEMs aren't interested in this whatsoever. It's likely that the market for machines like these would simply be too small (there are ever fewer CPU-bound tasks that can't be GPU accelerated) for them to pay for the R&D required to make a whole new laptop.

Maybe not with AMD processors at this time, but I wouldn't doubt we'll see something like that in the future. For instance, the Legion Y740S exists, which has no built-in GPU and depends on TB3 eGPUs. Once TB3 adoption is more mainstream with AMD machines, I'm sure we'll see something like that.

Quote from: Frans on April 03, 2020, 16:20:04

Quote from: Greg on April 03, 2020, 16:16:25
We're tired of gaming laptops with nvidia GPUs. Can we get laptops without graphics cards now? Just the Renoir APU. thanks

That would be fantastic. A Ryzen 4000H without any dGPU would be great for compiling or any other CPU/Cor- bound work.

AMD confirmed at CES that OEMs aren't interested in this whatsoever. It's likely that the market for machines like these would simply be too small (there are ever fewer CPU-bound tasks that can't be GPU accelerated) for them to pay for the R&D required to make a whole new laptop.

That being said, a 25W-configured 4800U or 4900U is likely to be very, very fast even in sustained all-core CPU loads, and plenty of those will show up in dGPU-less designs.

Quote from: Greg on April 03, 2020, 16:16:25
We're tired of gaming laptops with nvidia GPUs. Can we get laptops without graphics cards now? Just the Renoir APU. thanks

no. marketing says no fast cpu for non-gaming.

Quote from: Greg on April 03, 2020, 16:16:25
We're tired of gaming laptops with nvidia GPUs. Can we get laptops without graphics cards now? Just the Renoir APU. thanks

That would be fantastic. A Ryzen 4000H without any dGPU would be great for compiling or any other CPU/Cor- bound work.

We're tired of gaming laptops with nvidia GPUs. Can we get laptops without graphics cards now? Just the Renoir APU. thanks