If anyone wants to spend €800+ on a Xiaomi, it's their choice. And Xiaomi can set whatever price they want. It's a fairly free market. To me, personally, it's laughable. But it's hardly surprising. If people keep buying 1k+ phones, they're going to get 1k+ phones. And it's not going to stop there either. As long as you keep giving, they're going to keep taking. That's how it works.

Quote from: S.Yu on March 29, 2020, 11:11:50
Haha, alright, I don't see the Chinese market as fundamentally different, or incomparable to the EU market while the US market is comparable. Apple's products are more expensive in China than in the US for example.

Apple isn't a Chinese company, is it. I don't know enough about the Chinese market to make a good comparison. But I do know enough not to do it. And since that market isn't a viable option (as I said, I wouldn't want a Chinese version), it's irrelevant to me. It's like they don't exist. While in the US, it's just a question of band support and getting your hands on an unlocked phone. The gap between my local situation and the US (putting aside taxes, which are our problem and I would have to pay them on import anyway) really is in the offerings of networks. I only get modest discounts on phones, even on a two year contract. Up to maybe $200, including all taxes - which is great on a $200 phone where you end up paying just a symbolic cent, not so much on a $2000 phone. Especially since they count with MSRP and street prices on expensive phones can fall a lot. Of course, nothing is free. They don't operate a charity. Sooner or later, you'll pay for it. But it has a psychological effect. If everybody had to pay full retail up front, I imagine it would put a sizable dent in the sales.

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Quote from: S.Yu on March 28, 2020, 19:31:01
Weren't many Europeans complaining about getting Exynos Samsung for the price of Snapdragon? What would they say about this? ;)

From my perspective, the main problem with Samsung isn't that they use Exynos. The problem is that they use both chips, ask equivalent money when they aren't equal and don't give us a choice. Essentially designating us second class customers. You know, these guys, they're important to us so they deserve the best. While you, well, for you, we hacked something together which will do. Why is it so hard to understand that this doesn't sit well? Only then there is the question of value compared to other high-end phones, most of which have Snapdragons (I don't expect Samsung to offer a lot of value for money). And then the question of getting the best the market has to offer in a flagship as some people just want the best, no matter what (which I'm not one of, I'm more pragmatic).

I don't care about Xiaomi pricing in China. I wouldn't want a Chinese version of any phone. And it's a very different market. US pricing would be more relevant if I wanted to measure appendages.

Haha, alright, I don't see the Chinese market as fundamentally different, or incomparable to the EU market while the US market is comparable. Apple's products are more expensive in China than in the US for example.

Quote from: S.Yu on March 28, 2020, 19:31:01
Weren't many Europeans complaining about getting Exynos Samsung for the price of Snapdragon? What would they say about this? ;)

From my perspective, the main problem with Samsung isn't that they use Exynos. The problem is that they use both chips, ask equivalent money when they aren't equal and don't give us a choice. Essentially designating us second class customers. You know, these guys, they're important to us so they deserve the best. While you, well, for you, we hacked something together which will do. Why is it so hard to understand that this doesn't sit well? Only then there is the question of value compared to other high-end phones, most of which have Snapdragons (I don't expect Samsung to offer a lot of value for money). And then the question of getting the best the market has to offer in a flagship as some people just want the best, no matter what (which I'm not one of, I'm more pragmatic).

I don't care about Xiaomi pricing in China. I wouldn't want a Chinese version of any phone. And it's a very different market. US pricing would be more relevant if I wanted to measure appendages.

Weren't many Europeans complaining about getting Exynos Samsung for the price of Snapdragon? What would they say about this? ;)