Since my attention is on the headphone jack, I'd say they deserve it. Also the strange telephoto crop stunt is a questionable move. However Huawei's really managed to further uglify the P40 with overly round, wavy corners and huge camera cutouts that waste much more space than notches, I also don't see clear improvement in camera performance from GSMA's review. What's been pushing Huawei in its main market has always been propaganda, but we'll see how it sells elsewhere.

Quote from: JohnMac on March 28, 2020, 11:11:25

Quote from: jeremy on March 27, 2020, 16:52:18

I don't think Exynos should die, but Samsung's M cores should. Like Qualcomm & Nvidia (both of whom used to make custom ARM cores), they should just transition to using stock ARM Cortex designs.

Scuttlebutt on the web is Samsung's Austin, TX division, where the M cores were all designed (once made of former AMD engineers), was treated like trash and all have quit over the years. Samsung appears to have shuttered the CPU architecture design aspect, leaving the door wide open to just using licensed ARM cores.

I wonder if Samsung will rebrand Exynos after all the bad coverage it's gotten recently. Seems like most people don't realise it's just the mongoose cores that suck (like you say).

On a side note it's funny how everyone's been bringing this up after Samsung already ended further development. Do people not realise the problem was basically already solved?

We don't really know if it's solved. There's still more aside from the CPU and GPU cores in a SoC. I remain skeptical anyhow.

Quote from: jeremy on March 27, 2020, 16:52:18

I don't think Exynos should die, but Samsung's M cores should. Like Qualcomm & Nvidia (both of whom used to make custom ARM cores), they should just transition to using stock ARM Cortex designs.

Scuttlebutt on the web is Samsung's Austin, TX division, where the M cores were all designed (once made of former AMD engineers), was treated like trash and all have quit over the years. Samsung appears to have shuttered the CPU architecture design aspect, leaving the door wide open to just using licensed ARM cores.

I wonder if Samsung will rebrand Exynos after all the bad coverage it's gotten recently. Seems like most people don't realise it's just the mongoose cores that suck (like you say).

On a side note it's funny how everyone's been bringing this up after Samsung already ended further development. Do people not realise the problem was basically already solved?

After getting an Exynos version of S10 for a premium price, I feel cheated. They should keep the Exynos for their midrangers and keep the SD for flagships. Also no headphone jack? They can do better than that!

Quote from: Digitlguy on March 27, 2020, 12:48:19
Glad to hear about this and hope that S20 flops hard... Samsung has gone back removing the audio jack and not offering a compact version with flat screen like the S10e. Also exynos should just die
I'll keep my S10e as long as possible, and then will move to iphone (as Apple is the only company selling flagships phones that are not huge...)

I don't think Exynos should die, but Samsung's M cores should. Like Qualcomm & Nvidia (both of whom used to make custom ARM cores), they should just transition to using stock ARM Cortex designs.

Scuttlebutt on the web is Samsung's Austin, TX division, where the M cores were all designed (once made of former AMD engineers), was treated like trash and all have quit over the years. Samsung appears to have shuttered the CPU architecture design aspect, leaving the door wide open to just using licensed ARM cores.

Glad to hear about this and hope that S20 flops hard... Samsung has gone back removing the audio jack and not offering a compact version with flat screen like the S10e. Also exynos should just die
I'll keep my S10e as long as possible, and then will move to iphone (as Apple is the only company selling flagships phones that are not huge...)