Quote from: A on March 12, 2020, 19:59:37
The CPU part is clearly more expensive than the GPU. And countering a APU's with a low end dGPU is gonna cost more while having higher battery life.

show me ONE testing where the conclusion is:
1650 max-q in laptop A is a total crap, the winner is laptop B coz the gorgeous inregrated gpu.
just ONE.

Quote from: Greffen link=topic=108101.msg382792#msg382792
Lenovo isn't known for being cheap looking at past heritage when previously was IBM's PC division. That Ryzen 4500U was in a Lenovo chasis.

lenovo? no.
10k-30k geekbench 4 is a mobile market nowadays.
13k-19k for 1065g7 is midrange at best.

@william blake - I disagree. Let us look at Ice Lake prices.

1035G1 - $297
1035G4 - $309
1035G7 - $320
1065G7 - $426

As you can see, a jump from lowest gpu to midgpu is only $12, and jump to highest GPU is $23. In comparison the jump from mid cpu to highest cpu is $106.

The CPU part is clearly more expensive than the GPU. And countering a APU's with a low end dGPU is gonna cost more while having higher battery life.

Quote from: william blake on March 12, 2020, 12:29:30as i said, these results screaming about cheap low mainstream.
2020 is a revolution year on laptop market.

Lenovo isn't known for being cheap looking at past heritage when previously was IBM's PC division. That Ryzen 4500U was in a Lenovo chasis.

Quote from: xpclient on March 12, 2020, 13:19:33
The integrated Vega GPU is also considerably faster than Ice Lake's GPU, right?

i can tell you my opinion, but i am a minority.  the cheaper an apu, the more valuable igpu part is. so all that tiger lakes or top of the line vega'a are easy to counter with dirt cheap dgpu. athlon, on the other hand, is clearly a better buy than pentiums, due to gaming capabilities. this goes up to ryzen 3, maybe to ryzen 5 6/6 cores/threads.

The integrated Vega GPU is also considerably faster than Ice Lake's GPU, right?

Quote from: Greffen on March 12, 2020, 11:56:13
Lazy authorship at work again, look at the other Intel Core i7-1065G7 results. This /v4/cpu/15297486 is from a Lenovo chasis "LENOVO 81RS" likely to be s Yoga S740-14

Single - 5690
Multi - 19485

And this one is under Windows also.

as i said, these results screaming about cheap low mainstream.
2020 is a revolution year on laptop market.

Lazy authorship at work again, look at the other Intel Core i7-1065G7 results. This /v4/cpu/15297486 is from a Lenovo chasis "LENOVO 81RS" likely to be s Yoga S740-14

Single - 5690
Multi - 19485

And this one is under Windows also.

Quote from: dsdasdsadssdsa on March 12, 2020, 11:25:10
Did you bother to scroll down the list of results for 1065G7. There is a score of:
Mar 11, 2020   Dell Inc. XPS 13 9300
Intel Core i7-1065G7 3900 MHz (4 cores)
Linux 64-bit      6046   19235
Which handily beats 4500U.
It will probably take 4600U to beat 1065G7, but nevertheless, given better thermals on AMD parts and supposedly better battery life, this is nice.

the BEST1065 result(of a hundreds) on windows-19471. 2%+ higher than the best of 3 ryzen 4500u.
but yeah, not good enough to compete with the mighty i7.

@dsdasdsadssdsa - To be fair, the 4500U can beat the 1065G7 when they are using the same amount of watts.

Also, your entry uses Linux.

Did you bother to scroll down the list of results for 1065G7. There is a score of:
Mar 11, 2020   Dell Inc. XPS 13 9300
Intel Core i7-1065G7 3900 MHz (4 cores)
Linux 64-bit      6046   19235
Which handily beats 4500U.
It will probably take 4600U to beat 1065G7, but nevertheless, given better thermals on AMD parts and supposedly better battery life, this is nice.