Well, there are far more examples, most can be found in /r/thinkpad subreddit. I won't go as far as searching them for you, 'cause I couldn't possibly care less about convincing you, sorry.
What's important, as we both know, is for Lenovo to not mess things up any more, and deliver at least one model which will accomodate 4700U/4800U optimally. If that happens, that machine is destined to succeed.

Quote from: e42 on January 26, 2020, 12:08:52
Yes please:
This is from Notebookcheck's review of A485, which for a magical reason had one heatpipe.
At the same time, the equivalent Intel model, T480, has this:

thanks for the pics, but i see 2 chips=2 heatpipes, 1 chip=1 heatpipe. happens all the time, regardless of the manufacturer.

QuoteThis proves the point.

no. lets see you point:

Quote from: e42 on January 25, 2020, 22:32:21
It wouldn't be that surprising. However, none of the AMD models up to now (the former A series and now the *5 models) has had an on-par thermal solution with Intel platforms. In other words, Lenovo has consistently undermined the AMD Thinkpads by e.g. treating them with one heatpipe instead of two, and so on.

even if you was right about a485/t480 but you are not :) one example is not enough to prove none and consistently

Yes please: https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/6/0/csm_DSC_0648_watermarked_103b7b124d.jpg
This is from Notebookcheck's review of A485, which for a magical reason had one heatpipe.
At the same time, the equivalent Intel model, T480, has this:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/e/4/csm_wartung87_d37ee3712a.jpg
This proves the point.

Quote from: e42 on January 25, 2020, 22:32:21
Lenovo has consistently undermined the AMD Thinkpads by e.g. treating them with one heatpipe instead of two, and so on.

can you give us an example?

It wouldn't be that surprising. However, none of the AMD models up to now (the former A series and now the *5 models) has had an on-par thermal solution with Intel platforms. In other words, Lenovo has consistently undermined the AMD Thinkpads by e.g. treating them with one heatpipe instead of two, and so on.
Now we have Ryzen 4800U which eats all Intel's lineup for breakfast. Question is, is Lenovo going to use this, and other AMD 3gen Ryzens up to their potential?

Somehow I still think Thinkpads will prefer to use Intel CPUs for their top end models.

Quote from: undervolter0x0309 on January 23, 2020, 08:41:05
Enough with the teasing. where are the laptops?!

i know right? nothing difficult in telling us some launch dates.

If only AMD would support USB 4.0 now.

Enough with the teasing. where are the laptops?!

I'm very excited about this but we'll see about the actual real-world performance alongside the cooling for laptops.