Quote from: xpclient on September 07, 2019, 11:09:50
See there are 3 types of touchpads: old school with buttons completely separate from touch area, then there are clickpads and forcepads. The last 2 types are awful.

Because the button area also moves the pointer on the screen, so when you click down, it accidentally moves the pointer a little bit and you end up clicking somewhere else than the intended position. It is very accident prone vs separate buttons where the pointer does not move at all. Old style separate buttons are the real powerhouse. Everything else is just a non professional gimmick. Movement area over the button area is totally unusable.

Imagine if in your mouse, the pointer moved as you touched its left or right buttons. No, in a mouse, it only moves when the mouse itself moves. The movement should always be separate from the buttons, never shared.

Basically I cannot stand clickpads nor forcepads. Only old style touchpads. e.g. which are present on Lenovo Legion Y740 ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html ), Schenker XMG Ultra 17 etc.

The market is flooded with clickpads being the dominant touchpads in cheap quality notebooks. But at least professional+gaming category should raise the bar and not settle for clickpads.

Of course, that's just my opinion. It's ok if you don't agree.

Ah I totally get this, except there's a 4th type of touchpad, though very rare: It's one single surface with the clicking regions entirely unresponsive to movement.
I have this 4th type yet I still heavily prefer my MX Master with fast scrolling, side scrolling capabilities, thumb gestures and the center button set to "back". No pad beats the mouse :)

See there are 3 types of touchpads: old school with buttons completely separate from touch area, then there are clickpads and forcepads. The last 2 types are awful.

Because the button area also moves the pointer on the screen, so when you click down, it accidentally moves the pointer a little bit and you end up clicking somewhere else than the intended position. It is very accident prone vs separate buttons where the pointer does not move at all. Old style separate buttons are the real powerhouse. Everything else is just a non professional gimmick. Movement area over the button area is totally unusable.

Imagine if in your mouse, the pointer moved as you touched its left or right buttons. No, in a mouse, it only moves when the mouse itself moves. The movement should always be separate from the buttons, never shared.

Basically I cannot stand clickpads nor forcepads. Only old style touchpads. e.g. which are present on Lenovo Legion Y740 ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICH-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop-Review.410791.0.html ), Schenker XMG Ultra 17 etc.

The market is flooded with clickpads being the dominant touchpads in cheap quality notebooks. But at least professional+gaming category should raise the bar and not settle for clickpads.

Of course, that's just my opinion. It's ok if you don't agree.

Quote from: xpclient on September 07, 2019, 08:33:36
I can't believe notebooks without dedicated touchpad buttons (clickpads) get top scores on this site. The top models should always be the ones with touchpads for pro use i.e. with buttons. The buttonless ones should not even be a serious consideration.

Yes a mouse is always an option but then what's the point of the touchpad if you can't for example, right click and drag or quickly hold down a button and drag to select text. That kind of speed you can't get with a touch-tapping-gestures only touchpad (which is also prone to accidental taps and the pointer moving when we tap if the button area is not separate from the touch area).

What the hell are you talking about? You can do both of them easily with integrated buttons using exactly the same motion as touchpads with separate buttons.
I'm sure there are 'touch-tapping-gestures only touchpads', but I've never seen one on any laptop. Even my Surface type cover keyboard uses integrated buttons, and I rarely if ever use tapping or gestures.

I can't believe notebooks without dedicated touchpad buttons (clickpads) get top scores on this site. The top models should always be the ones with touchpads for pro use i.e. with buttons. The buttonless ones should not even be a serious consideration.

Yes a mouse is always an option but then what's the point of the touchpad if you can't for example, right click and drag or quickly hold down a button and drag to select text. That kind of speed you can't get with a touch-tapping-gestures only touchpad (which is also prone to accidental taps and the pointer moving when we tap if the button area is not separate from the touch area).

Thanks a lot for the terrific article! A couple of corrections regrading the specs:

1. Only one of the USB-C ports on the Razer supports Thunderbolt 3. The other only supports USB 3.2 Gen 2:

2. The USB-A ports on the Razer & Gigabyte are not the same. The ones on the Razer all support USB 3.2 Gen 2 @ 10 Gbps, whereas the ones on Gigabyte only support USB 3.2 Gen 1 @ 10 Gbps.