Quote from: Sinocelt on June 06, 2019, 06:52:30
Twice in the past few years I had to extract the hard drive from my Dell notebook to recover my data: once because the drive stopped working, and once because the rest of the laptop gave up the ghost. But what if the drive had been soldered? THAT's what's making be very wary of the next XPS13 2-in-1, which I was overall impressed by when I toyed with it at Computex (but boy, is the travel short on its keyboard).

Damn, this happened to my phone, it's the SoC that suddenly shorted or something, right in my hand while I was browsing, and after asking around I realize my data's probably gone with the SoC, I assume it's due to Samsung's Knox, or else the flash should yet be salvageable, with considerable effort.

i will never buy a laptop or computer with soldered ram or ssd. dell - insane move on this one - this is spitting in the face of and defecating upon your customers. shame on dell for this.

We'll soon see if this is bullsh*t or not when someone opens one up for review.

They trimmed this down 1mm-0.7mm from the previous model and so maybe it was worth the trade-off?

As long as they don't charge Apple RAM and SSD prices then most people will spec 16Gb + 512Gb or even 32Gb + 1Tb configurations.

In this case I will definitely NOT buy the new XPS 13 and will look for a better alternative (e.g. Asus Zenbook).

Thanks for sharing this important information.

Twice in the past few years I had to extract the hard drive from my Dell notebook to recover my data: once because the drive stopped working, and once because the rest of the laptop gave up the ghost. But what if the drive had been soldered? THAT's what's making be very wary of the next XPS13 2-in-1, which I was overall impressed by when I toyed with it at Computex (but boy, is the travel short on its keyboard).

Quote from: Superguy on June 04, 2019, 16:38:51
Problem is we don't use laptops the same way we use phones. Anything I can't do on my phone I use a laptop for. If I'm paying as much as Dell wants for these XPS laptops, I want some measure of upgradability - especially given the thermal issues they refuse to address.

So no, Dell, it's NOT the same as a phone.

"Don't you guys have phones?"
(not my joke, I stole it from someone on Reddit)

Boycott! How to spread the word to the masses who may be unaware is the issue...

Let's be honest, its not about "tight" laptops.

It is about either upgrading the SSD DIY with only $70-80 or giving Dell $200-$300 extra for the next "higher spec" model.

Goodbye Dell

And how much "tighter" was this? The previous version still had up to 1050Ti? This XPS 15 looks to the 13 more like the latest Blade 17 to the 15--little more than a screen size boost and a larger radiator.

Sorry Dell, you have forgotten what makes the XPS line amazing. You may have attracted the lay-people... It has cost you your soul.

I have spent thousands with Dell over the last 5 years. You have lost me and many like me.

Problem is we don't use laptops the same way we use phones. Anything I can't do on my phone I use a laptop for. If I'm paying as much as Dell wants for these XPS laptops, I want some measure of upgradability - especially given the thermal issues they refuse to address.

So no, Dell, it's NOT the same as a phone.