Quote from: sticky on February 13, 2019, 06:03:37
ZenBook 15 and MSI PS63 share the same problem, you pay a lot more for less compared to the likes of XPS 15 and X1 Extreme, both of which are frequently discounted or available as refurbished from outlets.
They were supposed to deliver battery advantage paired with Core U processors, but the Core H is already very efficient on light workloads with the added benefit of performance on sustained. Incidentally the hardware on performance laptops are also much more premium compared to these new systems.
Common argument is that Asus and MSI are often more price competitive than Dell and Lenovo outside the US. Nevertheless people have the option to import from the US with better prices than anything domestically sold.
There's little point in this Core U + middling dGPU coupling unless OEMs can offer them with considerably larger batteries at lower prices while keeping the weight down, and that's unfeasible.
Dude, I've got this laptop for half of price of XPS 15.
As for battery, not sure about MSI because I don't own one, but it easily beats X1E on battery related stuff. It also barely gets warm, which is a big plus for me (not sure everyone shares the same sentiment). I understand that X1E is much more powerful than this one, but it is much cheaper, has much better battery, and descent performance. As a bang for the buck it is really, really good one. If you're willing to compare refubrished models, then this one refubrished will cost you half the price of refubrished XPS 15 / X1E. Let's just say they are in different price segments, this laptop is in lower / mid range category, while XPS 15 or X1E cost you almost as much as Macbook Pros, which is far from cheap.