Quote from: Ilam on December 13, 2018, 16:47:35

Quote from: S.Yu on December 08, 2018, 21:05:25

Quote from: ED on December 06, 2018, 18:15:15
Let's call a spade a spade: the main cause is that Huawei has eroded Cisco's and Apple's market share. With sanctions, tariffs and geopolitical threats with economical implications the US is playing dirty, hoping to come out clean by changing the president. Hopefully the world will remember.

There's this naive mentality around that China's the victim, it's not.
A few months ago China banned the sales of the greater part of Micron's lineup on charges of IP infringement of a local nobody, and China thwarted Qualcomm's merger with NXP when every other country gave the green light. It goes without say that Huawei benefits from Qualcomm's hindrances.
China as the world's second largest economy is still taking advantage of the WTO loophole allowing it to remain a "developing country" indefinitely, regardless of the actual state of economic development, therefore retaining the unfair advantage of legally erecting trade barriers against those without that status.
China also plays dirty, when it gets the chance.

It is you that really play dirty, hah? What they call person like you? A hanjian?
I happen to know the cases mentioned above and it's nothing like what you imagine. If you really want to know international relationships please do the work, learning from a international view instead of a rasism view.
At least, I know China let us use cheap but high-quality products, which has reduced our cost of living, but at the expense of their people's family dispersion and environmental pollution. Their original accumulation did not slaughter the Indians, and there was no colonial plunder, nor did they make war money.
And this is notebookcheck, a place we share happiness and excitement about cutting-edge hardware. This is NOT Stormfront nor Breitbart. Could you please do us a favor to take your racism alway.
And it's funny that you think abusing China can make you look like a good person, considering your name, and your speech history which is full of fake news.

And who the hell are you? Proud Communist lapdog? My comments on this site are publically available for search and I stand by each and every one of them, you on the other hand are some anonymous without an account, with an opaque history.
You claim to "happen to know" the cases yet you provide no evidence of any form of what you claim to know, while others are free to verify my narrative if they hold any doubt, so why the hell should anybody take your word over mine, unless they're also brainwashed chauvinists like you?  Moreover, China's foreign ministry publically declared not many months ago that China will remain indefinitely a "developing country", a nail in the coffin for you apologists. I don't deny that the US sometimes plays dirty, I'm reminding people that it's wrong to assume that China's hands are clean, I also repeated this notion on another site, that "this is how the big boys play".
Now, what have you to gain whitewashing China and badmouthing the US with history decades even centuries old? How many people did China slaughter at Tiananmen Square then? How many people were tortured and died humiliating deaths in the Cultural Revolution? How many people died of famine because China was still exporting food to Africa and turned down the majority of international humanitarian aid on grounds of ideological differences during the great leap forward? And today? What about the kidnap of the HK bookshop keeper? Under the so-called one country two systems mainland law has no authority in HK, yet not only did they arrest the HK citizen under the excuse of breaking mainland laws on HK territory they did it secretively without a family member or lawyer's knowledge, gestapo practice from such a "pure" and "innocent" regime? You've also done a poor job disguising your laughable Chinglish, so you could stop pretending to be who you're not.
Yeah, this is Notebookcheck, you should go remind Mr. Erectile Dysfunction there about abstaining from politics.

Quote from: S.Yu on December 08, 2018, 21:05:25

Quote from: ED on December 06, 2018, 18:15:15
Let's call a spade a spade: the main cause is that Huawei has eroded Cisco's and Apple's market share. With sanctions, tariffs and geopolitical threats with economical implications the US is playing dirty, hoping to come out clean by changing the president. Hopefully the world will remember.

There's this naive mentality around that China's the victim, it's not.
A few months ago China banned the sales of the greater part of Micron's lineup on charges of IP infringement of a local nobody, and China thwarted Qualcomm's merger with NXP when every other country gave the green light. It goes without say that Huawei benefits from Qualcomm's hindrances.
China as the world's second largest economy is still taking advantage of the WTO loophole allowing it to remain a "developing country" indefinitely, regardless of the actual state of economic development, therefore retaining the unfair advantage of legally erecting trade barriers against those without that status.
China also plays dirty, when it gets the chance.

It is you that really play dirty, hah? What they call person like you? A hanjian?
I happen to know the cases mentioned above and it's nothing like what you imagine. If you really want to know international relationships please do the work, learning from a international view instead of a rasism view.
At least, I know China let us use cheap but high-quality products, which has reduced our cost of living, but at the expense of their people's family dispersion and environmental pollution. Their original accumulation did not slaughter the Indians, and there was no colonial plunder, nor did they make war money.
And this is notebookcheck, a place we share happiness and excitement about cutting-edge hardware. This is NOT Stormfront nor Breitbart. Could you please do us a favor to take your racism alway.
And it's funny that you think abusing China can make you look like a good person, considering your name, and your speech history which is full of fake news.

Quote from: ED on December 06, 2018, 18:15:15
Let's call a spade a spade: the main cause is that Huawei has eroded Cisco's and Apple's market share. With sanctions, tariffs and geopolitical threats with economical implications the US is playing dirty, hoping to come out clean by changing the president. Hopefully the world will remember.

There's this naive mentality around that China's the victim, it's not.
A few months ago China banned the sales of the greater part of Micron's lineup on charges of IP infringement of a local nobody, and China thwarted Qualcomm's merger with NXP when every other country gave the green light. It goes without say that Huawei benefits from Qualcomm's hindrances.
China as the world's second largest economy is still taking advantage of the WTO loophole allowing it to remain a "developing country" indefinitely, regardless of the actual state of economic development, therefore retaining the unfair advantage of legally erecting trade barriers against those without that status.
China also plays dirty, when it gets the chance.

... let's see which US exec China takes hostage! THE TRADE WAR IS ON! >:D

It IS the headline on BBC.

Let's call a spade a spade: the main cause is that Huawei has eroded Cisco's and Apple's market share. With sanctions, tariffs and geopolitical threats with economical implications the US is playing dirty, hoping to come out clean by changing the president. Hopefully the world will remember.

Funny this didn't even make the headlines in the US (most are about the Bush funeral and the Dow dip) but in China it seems such a big deal.