It's sad that not many producers use these apu's. Over 1080p in a laptop with 14 or even 15'6 inches is barelly noticeable and clocked at 1300mhz the vega 11 can beat mx150 and iris plus any time, this is obviously not for extreme gamers but for average gaming or rendering with igpu instead cpu could be "the thing". I wouldn't be surprised to see one of these in a macbook honestly, very good stuff here.

Quote from: justagamer on September 18, 2018, 21:02:17
I think the reason they're comparing it to gaming laptops is because of the "H" at the end of the name. To me, that says AMD is using these to directly compete with Intel's H-series (i5-8300H and i7-8750H). I don't think that's a wild jump in logic.

And who says that i5-8300H and i7-8750H are made for gaming laptops only? These are general CPUs for multiple use cases including content creation, workstation, office laptops and anything that requires good steady performance. So where the conclusion about gaming laptops comes from?  :o

I think the reason they're comparing it to gaming laptops is because of the "H" at the end of the name. To me, that says AMD is using these to directly compete with Intel's H-series (i5-8300H and i7-8750H). I don't think that's a wild jump in logic.

I think that the ideal laptop for this would be a 14in "ultrabook" with a Thunderbolt port. I would gladly swap to this from my Aero 14Kv7 so that I could support team red haha.

What bugs me most about this report:
> but their 45 W nominal TDP suggests that they will be used in gaming laptops upon release.

Where does this idea fly from? There are non-gaming laptops on the market with 45W CPU only (e.g. Dell XPS15). There is even more laptops that have 15W CPU plus something like a 25W GeForce MX 150, which totals about the same TDP mark.

>  Even the relatively inexpensive GTX 1050 destroys the Vega 11 in gaming benchmarks.

Sure, because it has TDP roughly matching the 2800H CPU+GPU combined.

So you first artificially throw this laptop into the "gaming" bin, then complain for it not to match the laptops really made for gaming, and not even consider matching either *total* TDP or the price...

We just need to hope that various drivers and optimization patches for Ryzen will also catch up. Not sure about the current situation, but I remember there being a significant performance drop for Ryzen 1 only due to poor drivers for various apps, i.e., random crashes on older CentOS versions, etc.

Same with AMD, if I'm interested in running some jobs on the GPU, the ecosystem for CUDA is so well developed that it's hard to pass on it and opt for an AMD. Maybe it's just me, but I think (long time) developer support is just as much important as the lower prices.

So according to you laptops should either be ultra-slims that loose 50% of their performance after 20sec or expensive gaming machines with $500 graphics cards!

How about all the people that actually use the laptops for work like content creator, engineers, scientists, technicians etc that need a laptop with good steady performance without breaking the bank for useless hyper expensive graphics cards?

I think AMD's strategy is great for all those and it will deliver powerful laptops for half the price of a mid-range gaming machine!

Since when the ridiculous idea of spending $2000-$3000 on a laptop for playing games instead of a $300 console became the "correct" strategy!  :o