Quote from: Robert on April 25, 2018, 17:51:44
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Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.

About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?

Goog luck finding articles/news regarding AMD cards melting motherboards. Fake.
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hardforum. com/threads/psa-do-not-run-more-than-one-rx-480-directly-from-motherboard.1940868/
reddit. com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4rfou0/brand_new_rx_480_just_destroyed_my_motherboard/
reddit. com/r/Amd/comments/4qwzpy/three_motherboards_and_counting_have_died_from/

Quote from: Arewijk on April 25, 2018, 16:52:59
the gtx 750ti had way more pull on the mainboard, easily up to like 130 watts down the PCIe port

noone actually blew up a single board using either of those cards.

so you may want to check whether the competition didn't do the same thing earlier, before you start your fanboying and play the bashing game yourself... lol

Thanks for confirming you don't know what power spikes are.

I've never expected anything less of nVidia as they always reminded me of Intel's endless drive for greed and profit at all costs. Bring it on, this is the future the green lovers want, so let them have it and eat it. I've finally dropped out of the GPU market entirely after the hilarious rise of prices, done with it either way. Good luck and god speed, you're gonna need it.

[quote author=Anon link=topic=84939.msg330553#msg330553

Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.

About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?
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Goog luck finding articles/news regarding AMD cards melting motherboards. Fake.

the gtx 750ti had way more pull on the mainboard, easily up to like 130 watts down the PCIe port

noone actually blew up a single board using either of those cards.

so you may want to check whether the competition didn't do the same thing earlier, before you start your fanboying and play the bashing game yourself... lol

ok now go and get your own news and ask each company how much production they have of these chips?
ask them if there are any issues?
and other newsworthy things

Quote from: Pewzor on April 24, 2018, 11:28:01
Actually AMD has had superior drivers than Nvidia ever since Relive last year. 
People just have the whole stupid mindshare thing. 
I mean Nvidia once released drivers that literally causes the graphic chips to melt down, these no screw up as big as that Nvidia self destruct driver, but clueless users will choose to forget that. 
www.destructoid.com/don-t-install-the-newest-nvidia-driver-it-s-breaking-pcs-347362.phtml 

Furtuermore Nvidia ships spyware with enforced telemetry on all their drivers now, and requires unique account just to use any of the GeForce shixperience utilities.

Are you claiming AMD never released drivers who burned GPUs? Worse than that AMD released Polaris GPU which literally melted motherboards.

About Geforce Experience. Have you deleted your Facebook account after latest scandal or kept it to bash and spread anti Nvidia propaganda?

Quote from: wvdschel on April 24, 2018, 10:04:15

Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.

Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.

But this is exactly the reason Nvidia introduced GPP. AMD mindshare buying only AMD no matter what and that's anti competitive move by customers.

It is totally unacceptable as a consumer. Intel please please reject all the manufacturers computers with NVIDIA GPU. Make it illegal people put NVIDIA GPU and Intel CPU together into a computer. EYE TO EYE!

for those of you worried about kaby lake G drivers, for starters AMD has actually very good drivers, but even if they didnt, intel is the one who is responsible for the drivers, they may use the amd base drivers, but they will edit it as kaby lake-G is an intel product, it has a custom VEGA but it is an intel product, ergo intel is the one shipping drivers

Nvidia's Linux support is total crap.  AMD is ages ahead there.

Since using 8600m GT with XPS 1530 I've never had any problems with drivers and didn't have to install custom ones to be up-to-date. Keep in mind that we are talking with laptops here and an Intel - AMD collaboration, so that may be even more short lived. It's just my concerns that gamers won't be able to user their laptops to play new games due to driver incompatibility issues.
If AMD really has good driver support now that's very good to hear, but like I said, I've had bad experiences.

Actually AMD has had superior drivers than Nvidia ever since Relive last year. 
People just have the whole stupid mindshare thing. 
I mean Nvidia once released drivers that literally causes the graphic chips to melt down, these no screw up as big as that Nvidia self destruct driver, but clueless users will choose to forget that. 
www.destructoid.com/don-t-install-the-newest-nvidia-driver-it-s-breaking-pcs-347362.phtml 

Furtuermore Nvidia ships spyware with enforced telemetry on all their drivers now, and requires unique account just to use any of the GeForce shixperience utilities.

Quote from: wvdschel on April 24, 2018, 10:04:15

Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.

Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.

Personally I do not trust AMD for driver updates, especially when it comes to such bold innovative projects. I hope it proves a success, but as a gamer, I would stick to Nvidia as they offer more in terms of long lasting support.

Quote from: Kian on April 24, 2018, 08:53:58
Is there nothing we can do as consumers? Is the GPU competition lost forever? Nvidia jas gone lazy and instrad of making new products they're just avoiding the competition. To be honest though, I didin't expect anything else.

Vote with your wallet and don't buy Nvidia, even when they are at a better price/performance point or when they get put in the more appealing laptops. They get away with this because people still buy their products, despite their behaviour.