Lenovo laptops are so bad. I have TP E580 Worst laptop ever. Terrible cooling Never buy laptops from this company

Quote from: Alin742 on September 07, 2018, 10:21:17
Hello i performed an undervolt to the i7-8550u on this laptop (thinkpad e580 model 20KS0005AD) of -99.6 mV and the cinebench r15 multicore was 573 and single core 162, im quite happy with the results. shows how thermal throttling limits ur system.

Hi there,

I just bought this laptop. I was wondering if you could help me guide towards how to undervolt. What software did you use and what settings to change?

Did you try undervolting the gpu too??

Hello i performed an undervolt to the i7-8550u on this laptop (thinkpad e580 model 20KS0005AD) of -99.6 mV and the cinebench r15 multicore was 573 and single core 162, im quite happy with the results. shows how thermal throttling limits ur system.

Quote from: nachum37 on June 04, 2018, 23:10:08

Quote from: NikoB on May 31, 2018, 21:31:52
E580 ... not have gen2 (10Gbits/s). PSREF from Lenovo lies for this specification for marketing reasons

Hi NikoB, Can you please specify how you know this? How can I check this out?

Edit: lsusb -t on linux return 5000M device only... Lenovo simply lies on the specification.

notebooks-und-mobiles dot de/lenovo-thinkpad-e580-i5-8250u-uhd-graphics-620-im-test

DP1.2 is OK (buy 3DClub mini-doc for this for AC power + output 4k signal @ 60Hz),
usb-c gen2 not work

I've been looking for a office laptop with some decent gaming performance, so is the E580 with i7-8550U worth to buy and will I have issues with it even if I'd undervolt it? Or is the i5-8250U version of the E580 with 8gt ram still better option?
Orrr should i go with the E570 that has i7-7500U and GTX 950M?..

Is the BIOS updates causes dramatic performance loss as well E480?

Quote from: NikoB on May 31, 2018, 21:31:52
E580 ... not have gen2 (10Gbits/s). PSREF from Lenovo lies for this specification for marketing reasons

Hi NikoB, Can you please specify how you know this? How can I check this out?

Edit: lsusb -t on linux return 5000M device only... Lenovo simply lies on the specification.

Why is E580 model with MIL-STD-810G military certification and E480 is NOT!? is this mistake in documentation ?

(Can't post any links, just google "Thinkpad E580 PSREF pdf" )

Any solution for dual monitor setup, without unplugging second monitor when i need to charge, usb C dock ??(don't even suggest streaming to headless RaspberryPi  >:D ).

And one more question, where is metal IO protection on left-hand side ports like on E480?  >:(

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QuoteAccording to the specification sheet, the USB 3.1 Gen2 Type-C port carries a DisplayPort signal. Unfortunately, it failed to produce an image on our TV when connected to a USB-C/HDMI dongle. Either the data sheet is wrong or we ran into compatibility issues with our adapter.

E580 100% have Display Port 1.2 via usb-c (it already tested with 4k monitors @60Hz), but not have gen2 (10Gbits/s). PSREF from Lenovo lies for this specification for marketing reasons, so that there is a difference with expensive models in L/T series. E have output for 3 monitors as L series (internal+HDMI+DP1.2).

Did you update all your drivers?
Opening ThinkVantage will take care of that for you.

Mine is silent most of the time. Fan only spinning when processor is working. Booting up or opening a program for example will make the fan spin. But after a short time it will turn off again.

Also you should consider undervolting it with 100mv. This can be done with Intel XTU very easily. It will make the processor/computer run less hot - thereby less fan noise, better performance and better battery life
(and it is not dangerous. OVERvolting it will fry the chip, but undervolting does not harm the components). You can look more into this yourself on the internet. There are plenty of guides and explanations out there.

-Mikkel

Hi, I bought this PC because of your review (actually I went for an i5 CPU+discrete graphic)! Ever since I turned it on, the fan never stopped running. The noise is very disturbing and it doesn't allow me to work! Did anyone of you have the same problem? Is there something I can do to fix it? Or should I just return the PC as the fan is probably not working properly?

Mat re: true about the hdd. Changing to an M.2 ssd would definitely help. I have an ssd as my c-drive for windows, and a hdd as d-drive for extra space. And I don't have your problem.

I can also highly recommend anyone with this machine to undervolt it with 100mv. I used Intel Xtu to do this and there are plenty of guides and videos out there to help you how to set i up. I saw a drastically decreasement in temperatures and much higher benchmarking scores after doing so.

Only the i5 SKUs are worth buying
I have checked thinkpad customize options and there is no options with i5 and RX 550.
note from official site:
Note: An optional AMD Radeon RX 550 2GB discrete graphics card is available with i7 processors.

Hi, regarding hot point where you put your right hand, reason could be you are using an hard disk, that goes below that position. Solution could be using only a M.2 SSD/PCIe NVMe SSD instead of HDD/SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2.5" wide. Other possibility, is to use a notebook cooler. Hope that helps.