I have this laptop for almost two months and i love it. I went through the whole far cry 4 storyline (ultra settings). Never noticed any lag and it was the best experience i ever had. The fans are really loud when doing stressfull tasks  and speaking about temperatures it never gets hot at the surface. It's allways cool there but at the bottom it's scortching, like extremely hot. this combined with the short battery life means that this laptop is meant to be a desktop replacement.
I'm really happy with this pc. You shoudlnt worry about the temperatures. Thats not an issue anymore and the screen is finally IPS. Looks really good, it suffers from some backlight bleeding but its not a big deal. Boot up time is slightly slower than 2qe (12-13 seconds to lock screen)

Quote from: Joe on January 01, 2016, 17:41:20
I don't know why everyone thinks this is a "great" gaming laptop.

Here is my experience.

After 15 minutes of playing World of Warcraft (not the most intense game in the world for sure) the FPS drops to 3! Yes 3 FPS because the video card gets too hot and throttles.

This considering I am using a heat pad with extra cooling!

I sent it back to MSI and it was returned saying there was NOTHING wrong with the laptop. If that is the case then it is "normal" to get 3 FPS on an 11 year old MMO like World of Warcraft? I'd hate to see something that is actually graphics intensive.

Lag on this machine was so bad that in a side by side my old Dell XPS I've owned now for 5 years beat this laptop hands down!

I finished Naxx 25 man raid in 47 minutes on my Dell and due to lap on the GS60 it took just over an hour at 61 minutes.

My advice is stay away from this piece of crap so called gaming computer. It is NOT a gaming computer and until the fix the heat and throttling issues it never and i mean NEVER will be.

You are right. This laptop it's to thin to control the heat of the 970m. The 3 modes the laptop has -Green, Comfort and Sport- are only to controlling the level of the throttling due to max temperatures. If your average room temperature is 25 Celsius and you put a demanding title you are going to find out soon about the throttling.

Another problem is the ventilation placement, this laptop has intake vents from the bottom and the upside area, next to keyboard. So you can't close the screen and connect it to external monitor.

I wouldn't recommend this laptop for high and demanding stuff like gaming or cpu/gpu load tasks. Better go for gs70 (which is superior in temps due to bigger size) or MSI Apache and Titan series.

How is it that his particular Xotic-PC model performs so great in 3DMark compared to something like the GS70 6QE model (also reviewed on this site.)? It's score is around 2000 points higher!?

I don't know why everyone thinks this is a "great" gaming laptop.

Here is my experience.

After 15 minutes of playing World of Warcraft (not the most intense game in the world for sure) the FPS drops to 3! Yes 3 FPS because the video card gets too hot and throttles.

This considering I am using a heat pad with extra cooling!

I sent it back to MSI and it was returned saying there was NOTHING wrong with the laptop. If that is the case then it is "normal" to get 3 FPS on an 11 year old MMO like World of Warcraft? I'd hate to see something that is actually graphics intensive.

Lag on this machine was so bad that in a side by side my old Dell XPS I've owned now for 5 years beat this laptop hands down!

I finished Naxx 25 man raid in 47 minutes on my Dell and due to lap on the GS60 it took just over an hour at 61 minutes.

My advice is stay away from this piece of crap so called gaming computer. It is NOT a gaming computer and until the fix the heat and throttling issues it never and i mean NEVER will be.

Hi!
I would like to buy the MSI stock version of this laptop. Can I expect similar performance/small differences or the XOTIC PC version with the GPU upgrade is completely different (better)?

(P.S. sorry for my broken English)

Quote from: Jasim on November 01, 2015, 02:03:33

Quote from: Allen.Ngo on October 27, 2015, 05:41:13
hi Greg,

All we can say is that we performed our battery life tests under the same standard conditions we use across all our notebooks. Our testing methodology is likely to be different as a result. Nonetheless, we do stand by our listed results.

What the f***
I got this laptop on the 13th of october in australia.
I have the exact same model as you 16gb ddr4 skylake. Same ssd and hdd config.
I take this to school and it easily lasts over 5 hours of actual usage when connected to wifi and web processing.
Have you even updated the drivers.
Also are you using power saving option
i have FHD display@60hz
Notebook check, i have lost all confidence in your site now.   >:(

What do you mean the build quality is bad, i have been using hp top end and toshiba top end laptops for the last couple years and this has to be the best build quality out of those 3. Speakers are also loud enough,  do you think people walk around school/public areas using their laptop as a speaker/boombox.
Also using MSI SILENT FAN TOOL, I can turn my fans off until cpu or gpu reaches 60degrees celsius and it never does that when using word, light games will still be running without any fan noise. This is a silent notebook.

I dont know if it was NotebookCheck or if the model they sent was bad
But this review was f****** appalling.
Get your act together Notebook Check.

Really happy to read this! Thank you! So the msi silent option tool is now working on skylake?

Quote from: Allen.Ngo on October 27, 2015, 05:41:13
hi Greg,

All we can say is that we performed our battery life tests under the same standard conditions we use across all our notebooks. Our testing methodology is likely to be different as a result. Nonetheless, we do stand by our listed results.

What the f***
I got this laptop on the 13th of october in australia.
I have the exact same model as you 16gb ddr4 skylake. Same ssd and hdd config.
I take this to school and it easily lasts over 5 hours of actual usage when connected to wifi and web processing.
Have you even updated the drivers.
Also are you using power saving option
i have FHD display@60hz
Notebook check, i have lost all confidence in your site now.   >:(

What do you mean the build quality is bad, i have been using hp top end and toshiba top end laptops for the last couple years and this has to be the best build quality out of those 3. Speakers are also loud enough,  do you think people walk around school/public areas using their laptop as a speaker/boombox.
Also using MSI SILENT FAN TOOL, I can turn my fans off until cpu or gpu reaches 60degrees celsius and it never does that when using word, light games will still be running without any fan noise. This is a silent notebook.

I dont know if it was NotebookCheck or if the model they sent was bad
But this review was f****** appalling.
Get your act together Notebook Check.

Yet AGAIN no information on PWM dimming. Everyone needs to move to http://laptopmedia.com for reviews since they actually post this vital information.

As always, excellent review. Can you imagine why the screen have a so bad black level, even if it is the LGD040E? Thank you

Hi! Thank you very much for the review.

The battery life seems to be a little bit to short with respect to the previous model and other review.

This user was having a similar battery problem and solved updating some driver: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gs60-6qe-skylake-unreasonably-low-battery-life-1hr.782782/

Can you check if this is the same case or not? Thank you very much!

hi Greg,

All we can say is that we performed our battery life tests under the same standard conditions we use across all our notebooks. Our testing methodology is likely to be different as a result. Nonetheless, we do stand by our listed results.

Your battery life figures seem to be at a disagreement with kitGurus  (found here: http://www.kitguru.net/laptops/zardon/msi-gs60-6qe-ghost-pro-4k-laptop-review/20/)

They had ~2.3 hours gaming and 5.75 hours in 'businessman' usage