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Posted by Gold

- January 13, 2025, 12:20:53

Quote from: Joe on January 13, 2025, 09:42:54Lossless Scaling is commendable as a solo feat. It also doesn't work very well.

Even in a best case scenario, Lossless Scaling cannot get good performance out of old, struggling hardware. It needs you to achieve a minimum 60fps to springboard from there. Anything less, and it's horrible.

I come from the "horrible time"s where people were happy to have 25 fps (i.e. original Crysis). And it has already been proven, that even if you had only 25 fps real framerate, the frame generation ontop produces a much smoother picture - which is a win in any case. Lots of people would be happy about it, if it were given them for free.

Posted by Joe

- January 13, 2025, 09:42:54

Quote from: GeorgeS on January 13, 2025, 00:51:14After all if 7yo GPU's can render modern AAA titles (Oh wait??? You mean like a 780m or GTX1650? LOL!!) why on earth would folks ditch perfectly functional hardware for whatever the OEM's are currently pitching?

So as was written that the majority of the performance improvement of the 5090 over the 4090 is from AI "frame generation"!!! LOL!!

Lossless Scaling is commendable as a solo feat. It also doesn't work very well.

Even in a best case scenario, Lossless Scaling cannot get good performance out of old, struggling hardware. It needs you to achieve a minimum 60fps to springboard from there. Anything less, and it's horrible.

Conversely, DLSS can take hardware which would only achieve sub-60fps, even well under 60fps, and create the working illusion of better hardware.

Even if you discount the new frame gen in DLSS4, it still looks like Nvidia is contuining to meet its gen-on-gen gains of about 30%. That's pretty commendable, too.

Posted by GeorgeS

- January 13, 2025, 00:51:14

Quote from: Fascinating on January 12, 2025, 09:20:25Fascinating how a no-name guy from the country can simply implement 20x frame generation of the same quality like billion dollar AAAA-companies, and works on every potato computer while Intel, Nvidia, AMD say (their own solutions) only work on their next-gen chips, and you have to buy their §hit once more again....

Ahhh... so your not a Sheep or Lemming then? LOL!!!

Companies tie what they think the market might find as "desirable features" to their new products to induce SALES!!!

After all if 7yo GPU's can render modern AAA titles (Oh wait??? You mean like a 780m or GTX1650? LOL!!) why on earth would folks ditch perfectly functional hardware for whatever the OEM's are currently pitching?

So as was written that the majority of the performance improvement of the 5090 over the 4090 is from AI "frame generation"!!! LOL!!

So the $64 question remains: if a bit of "AI" is all that is needed to get decent fake frame generation, why has not someone come out with a "NPU" card for older PC's?

Posted by SirStephenH

- January 12, 2025, 21:31:42

Quote from: Saint_Ursula on January 12, 2025, 11:01:15
Quote from: Fascinating on January 12, 2025, 09:20:25Fascinating how a no-name guy from the country can simply implement 20x frame generation of the same quality like.

Same quality ?
This software is absolute crap

I got a good laugh from that, dude must be as blind as a bat. They're not even in the same ballpark. It's like comparing a little league player to Ken Griffey Jr.

Posted by Abc

- January 12, 2025, 11:08:39

That's a slow pixel effect.

Posted by Saint_Ursula

- January 12, 2025, 11:01:15

Quote from: Fascinating on January 12, 2025, 09:20:25Fascinating how a no-name guy from the country can simply implement 20x frame generation of the same quality like.

Same quality ?
This software is absolute crap

Posted by Fascinating

- January 12, 2025, 09:20:25

Fascinating how a no-name guy from the country can simply implement 20x frame generation of the same quality like billion dollar AAAA-companies, and works on every potato computer while Intel, Nvidia, AMD say (their own solutions) only work on their next-gen chips, and you have to buy their §hit once more again....

Posted by Redaktion

- January 12, 2025, 08:06:22

The third-party software Lossless Scaling has been updated to version 3. This new update promises better upscaling, lower GPU load, improved latency, and, most importantly, up to 20x frame generation mode.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lossless-Scaling-3-launches-with-up-to-20x-frame-generation-mode.945883.0.html

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