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Posted by Times have changed
 - October 17, 2024, 06:20:46
Quote from: x84.4.LIFE on October 17, 2024, 03:16:43Intel proved with Lunar Lake that x86 can be just as efficient as ARM

Yeah, it's great. So great that intel has no current plans for a follow up of this chip. Also keep in mind this is barely just as efficient as M1 in some cases.

That's a 4 year old chip. On 5nm TSMC  vs 3nm. Looking at it from that context it's less impressive.

I do hope intel continue with follow up to lunar lake. But intel does have a bit of a history of working on great things and then axeing those very same projects.
Posted by Times have changed
 - October 17, 2024, 06:11:52
Quote from: TimJobs on October 16, 2024, 13:28:16The day whether Intel or AMD got something by which they can have edge on everyone, then immediately they will probably separate.

Thankfully, they don't have the edge in anything anymore. The only reason arm is not more dominant is due to Microsoft's gross incompetence (at everything).

Quote from: RicoViking9000 on October 16, 2024, 15:16:40remember when intel and AMD made an 8th gen (intel) laptop CPU with AMD graphics? That did not last long, nor did support for it

I remember yea but also keep in mind this was way before Qualcomm bought Nuvia or the rise & adoption of M-silicon macs and their success. Or Nvidia's monopoly in AI.
Posted by x84.4.LIFE
 - October 17, 2024, 03:16:43
Intel proved with Lunar Lake that x86 can be just as efficient as ARM in one generational leap (though they still have work to do to get the best performance per watt). Even if I never care to switch to Windows on ARM, this competition is good for the future of x86 chips and innovation. we all win in the end.
Posted by RicoViking9000
 - October 16, 2024, 15:16:40
remember when intel and AMD made an 8th gen (intel) laptop CPU with AMD graphics? That did not last long, nor did support for it
Posted by TimJobs
 - October 16, 2024, 13:28:16
Problem with group like this is that they don't play longer and are bound to fail.

The day whether Intel or AMD got something by which they can have edge on everyone, then immediately they will probably separate. They will forget the reason for this joint venture until again something similar to current times make them work together.
Posted by Redaktion
 - October 16, 2024, 08:09:04
Setting their differences aside, Intel and AMD have joined forces with other industry heavyweights to advance the x86 architecture in a bid to steal the spotlight away from ARM-based IPs like the Apple M series and Qualcomm Snapdragon X lineup. Intel and AMD want to ensure x86 remains the computing platform of choice for decades to come and will work towards streamlining the architecture's performance, efficiency, and AI capabilities for the future.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Plot-twist-Intel-and-AMD-team-up-to-outmaneuver-ARM-in-a-bid-to-continue-x86-hegemony.902126.0.html