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Posted by Elias_40
 - August 22, 2024, 12:30:50
Nobody is buying the Intel Core 13 or Intel Core 14 because they burn out or suffer from oxidation, in addition ITnel has confirmed that it will not refund money or replace defective factory chips and the 9000 Series has been released for those who are not gamers, more than enough with 15% more performance than the previous Series, but the truth is ALL GAMERS are waiting for the X3D version to come out before Christmas because this will be the definitive processor to have it all.Black Friday and Christmas will be dates when all AMD chips will be sold out.
Posted by The Problem Solver
 - August 21, 2024, 23:59:52
Quote from: NikoB (++) on August 21, 2024, 23:01:40in the consumer segment, but not on servers

So why don't you just buy server grade hardware then? Wouldn't that solve everything?

Nobody is forcing you to buy consumer grade hardware.
Posted by NikoB (++)
 - August 21, 2024, 23:01:40
X3D and the same increased L3 cache are a pointless crutch on x86 due to the shamefully low RAM bandwidth on all x86 in the consumer segment, but not on servers, where the bandwidth has long exceeded 1TB/s with HBM3+ memory.

It will be interesting to see when the delayed Zen5 Strix Halo with a 256-bit controller finally comes out - what will be the efficiency of the memory controller. I bet that it will hardly be more than 60% there. Apple, to its shame, even in top SoCs with a 512-bit controller actually provided only 30-33% of the theoretical declared bandwidth of 400 GB/s. Hence their epic failure with igpu - the lack of bandwidth for shared system memory is obvious.

At the prices that Apple demands for laptops with Max chips, they could very well install soldered 16-32GB of HBM3 memory directly in the chiplet as independent VRAM, like AMD in their SoCs, but something holds them back even in the HEDT segment from an obvious solution that will speed up igpu several times and provide easy support for many of the latest standards like DP2.0+/UHBR20 for 8k monitors, which we have been sadly waiting for at least 11 years in the mass segment...
Posted by Redaktion
 - August 21, 2024, 21:37:52
AMD could be gearing up to release the Ryzen 9000 X3D CPUs shortly as references to the Zen 5 X3D chips have been found in the source code of an ASUS site. In the absence of any meaningful gaming performance upgrade from the vanilla Zen 5 parts, the Ryzen 9000 X3D could likely be Team Red's answer to Intel Arrow Lake CPUs which is reportedly scheduled for October.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Ryzen-9000-X3D-vs-Arrow-Lake-might-soon-be-on-cards-as-ASUS-X870-motherboard-site-mentions-Zen-5-X3D-chips.878046.0.html