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Posted by Consumers Matter

- January 22, 2023, 06:31:12

For customers who did not buy the "Enhanced (!?!) Auto-Pilot" feature for $6,000, they have a big car to park without the aid of ultrasonic sensors (or the equivalent). Can consumers park these cars without these bells and whistles? Sure. But I can also drive a car that does not have automatic temperature control but greatly prefer driving cars that have it. Been driving over 40+ years and cannot recall the last time I was in a large vehicle without these sensors (or equivalent). Value for money spent matters and the absence of these sensors reduces the value of the car I purchased.

For customers who did buy the "Enhanced(!?!) package, they are entitled to receive what the company clearly offers since they were charged the full $6,000. Whether another driver feels he or she needs those features is really irrelevant.

Free enterprise doesn't mean freedom to bilk consumers out of their money by charging for features that are not fully available.

Our free enterprise system does mean each customer is entitled to decide what features are or are not important.

Posted by David Ruddick

- December 29, 2022, 00:59:10

I ordered a new model Y with all its tech features and was shocked to find mine didn't even have basic sonic parking assist front and back. The car I test drove had these basic features, and this large car with limited rear view really needs it to park in very tight places, which I do every day. I would never buy a car without these and Tesla have not supplied the car I ordered.
I had to pay cash before seeing the car and was not aware these sensors had been removed, downgrading it. I feel cheated-tesla vision coming soon isn't good enough.
What will they discontinue next to make it cheaper to build-heating or air con?

Posted by indy

- December 13, 2022, 22:36:57

Been driving for 30+ years. Somehow, I have gone that entire time using my eyes and head to keep awareness of my surroundings so that I have zero accidents.

I cannot imagine what generations of people think when they rely on imperfect technology to get them from point A to B and pay dearly for the privilege.

It is both comically funny as well as morbidly sad.

Posted by Honey D clown

- December 10, 2022, 02:27:49

Imagine dropping 150K on a Model S and finding this out,while sitting in your 1970's Buick vinyl seats?

Posted by Dude

- December 09, 2022, 07:57:33

This is not how you "roll out" a feature or change of it, you should keep the old way (the ultrasonic sensor) until you have the new one ready for action not just get rid of it while not communicating it to customers that ordered cars a while ago, that leads to very unhappy customers.

Posted by Bp968

- December 08, 2022, 21:09:37

Quote from: Joao on December 07, 2022, 12:23:30Tesla is not the most profitable auto maker in the world.. come on! Company earnings are public. What about Toyota, Volkswagen, etc etc etc.

Most profit per vehicle.

Posted by Sunny

- December 08, 2022, 19:39:51

Then what's the point of buying an expensive car that doesn't come with the basic park assist features that all the other cars now have, dude?

I purchased the Tesla for the "smart" features that they used to have (such as Autopark, smart-summon, forward collision warning, etc.), not for them to cut down $144 and released the Tesla Vision without having the software updates in hands prior to remove the ultrasonic sensors!

My personal experience with this new Tesla Vision release was almost led to a car collision because it didn't detect the car in front while on autopilot mode.

When you said "it's a car, not a chauffeur", you're totally missing the point that people purchased a Tesla for what it promised or claimed of capable to do - allow true autonomous driving - which the Tesla Vision failed to deliver, and that's what we're talking about here. So please stop insulting the author with your arrogant comment "If basic driving skills are so difficult then maybe you shouldn't be driving anyways". Thank you!

Posted by 21M3

- December 08, 2022, 15:59:23

I agree with #10! If basic driving skills are so difficult then maybe you shouldn't be driving anyways, move your head and look! Geez, I own a Tesla myself but I would always trust my judgment first, it's a car not a chauffeur

Posted by N

- December 08, 2022, 15:43:24

Or, you could stop relying on technology to think for you. Park your car yourself.

Posted by Nickg

- December 08, 2022, 14:36:42

Buy a Kia EV6 - mine has front and rear parking sensors as well as cameras and radar all round. All for less than a model 3.

Posted by noah

- December 08, 2022, 02:41:06

Quote from: Jonquier Mayle on December 08, 2022, 01:49:13Bro, Model 3 has never had LIDAR nor has any other Tesla production model.

Yup came to say same thing, hard to give this author any credibility with a comment like that

Posted by Jonquier Mayle

- December 08, 2022, 01:49:13

Bro, Model 3 has never had LIDAR nor has any other Tesla production model.

Posted by Todd

- December 07, 2022, 22:27:02

Tesla have always loved making a cost cutting measure and somehow pretended them to be advanced innovations. Remember they cheaped out on their LCD displays with non automotive grade panels, thinking themselves geniuses for it.

Then when they inevitably failed, instead of replacing them they half arsed again and just use the aircon to keep the whole interior 40⁰C when parked. Again they market this as them being clever and a 'feature' for the user to keep children/dogs cool.

They made customers pay for their mistakes with wasted energy keeping a parked car cool. Never mind that 40⁰ is dangerously hot for kids.

Posted by Paul Christu

- December 07, 2022, 19:11:52

It should be painfully obvious: The emperor wears no clothes.

Posted by Karen Mabry

- December 07, 2022, 18:04:24

Purchased my 1st Tesla in 2017 model S came with Enhanced auto pilot but I ordered the full self driving option. Since 2017 I have paid for an option of FSD that has never been able to be used. Still waiting for someone to call me and give me a refund for an option that was never available due to laws governing full self driving .

Recently, 3 weeks ago I
Received my new model Y. Unfortunately after receiving my new vehicle my premium conductivity package that was offered in March is now an option they want me to pay for monthly, I also expected the enhanced auto pilot to be Stanford they now want to charge $6000 for this option. I was offered a $99 a month subscription to the enhanced auto pilot which has recently disappeared from the Tesla website and the only option I have at this point it's full self driving Option at a $199 amount sdescription or $15000 to purchase. As everybody knows FSD options isn't even available on today's market so why buy an option again that I can't use!
Tesla is not fulfilling the basic car needs that other EV models are coming out with such as Ford Chevy and Toyota.
At $80000 for a EV Tesla needs to up their options to their customers to stay in the EV market. If you're an investor like I am I'm thinking of putting my money elsewhere . Elon Musk needs to get on board with the Tesla company and give us What was promise an autonomous vehicle or refund that option to prior purchase. Very doasappointed with this EV company.