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Posted by vertigo
 - December 15, 2020, 01:48:50
Agree with the other comments. Intel has never (at least not in the past 25-30 years) welcomed competition. They have a long history of anti-competitive practices and lazy, uninspired, lack of innovation except when forced by AMD.

This statement by Bryant comes across to me more as a brushing off of the seriousness of their situation: instead of admitting how bad things are and how they screwed up, they just play it off like "we finally have some competition but it's ok because we'll overcome," when the reality is they've been holding off competition with unethical and illegal behavior and that's probably their plan now.
Posted by Eo09
 - December 14, 2020, 23:36:08
"Welcomes"... more like bend over and take it. Intel's decline is its own making.
Posted by Decoux
 - December 14, 2020, 23:25:15
"Only the paranoid survive." was the title of a book by Andy Grove, legendary co-founder, former Chairman and CEO of Intel.  I've met Andy way back then, a great person and a great leader.

Using the title without proper attribution shows the character of current Intel leaders, not to mention how unmoored they are to the company's historical ethos.

Intel current decline was long in coming, the price of many years of hiring cheap, low-skilled labor to replace innovative talents.  These mediocre engineers are now leading Intel technology groups, and it shows.

Remember the quad-core chips Intel kept serving out years after years with marginal bump in speed/performance?  If it weren't for AMD to kick their a** with 6-8 (and more) cores, we'd be stuck with them for another few decades.  If you go back further, it was also AMD that kicked their a** from years of single core to dual cores!  History repeats itself.

Fat, lazy, happy and stupid.

Andy Grove would be turning in his grave.
Posted by _MT_
 - December 14, 2020, 21:53:30
Quote from: Duff Harris on December 14, 2020, 20:22:36
Considering how they treated AMD for years I don't think they "welcome" competition.
Good competition spurs you on. That doesn't necessarily mean you won't play dirty. Do you think all people who welcome a fight are fair players? They might believe all tools are fair game. After all, they're no longer on a kinder garden's yard. There are billions at stake. And very fat paychecks.
Posted by _MT_
 - December 14, 2020, 21:43:58
Quote from: S.Yu on December 14, 2020, 17:44:35
Sounds like tough talk, if they're really paranoid Skylake couldn't have been recycled for so many years.
I doubt that was their plan. They really screwed up in manufacturing. That they still have 14 nm mainstream consumer parts in the pipeline is ridiculous. And they clearly have their own ideas about how should processors look like which differ from AMD. It doesn't really look like we'll see an 8 core ULV chip from them anytime soon unless it's a hybrid design. And a 16 core consumer desktop chip doesn't look likely either (or even a 12 core, given that they appear to plan to replace 10 core 10900 with 8 core 11900). iGPU is really the only aspect where they went after AMD. But only in the case of 4 core processors.
Posted by Duff Harris
 - December 14, 2020, 20:22:36
Considering how they treated AMD for years I don't think they "welcome" competition.
Posted by S.Yu
 - December 14, 2020, 17:44:35
Sounds like tough talk, if they're really paranoid Skylake couldn't have been recycled for so many years.
Posted by Intel Corium i11
 - December 14, 2020, 16:31:56
Intel's past behavior suggests that Intel is more than capable of doing nefarious anti-competitive stuff to hold its position in the market. Intel's actions are stronger than its pretty words. Intel "welcomes" competition = leveraging its dominant position to bully everyone outright and underhandedly.
Posted by Goof
 - December 14, 2020, 16:20:03
Yes, but the paranoid survives often at the expense of others because they do not trust others and leaves the society in a worse state. What Intel is doing is like some actors in the Walking Dead, back channel deals and backstabbing to keep the other group down.
Posted by Redaktion
 - December 14, 2020, 06:42:29
Gregory Bryant, Intel EVP and GM of the Client Computing Group, felt that Intel's growth in laptops and desktops will continue. In a talk, he said that Intel is paranoid about the competition from AMD, Qualcomm, Apple, and MediaTek and takes all of them very seriously.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-s-Gregory-Bryant-says-only-the-paranoid-survive-welcomes-competition-from-AMD-Apple-and-others.509093.0.html