Quote from: LHPSU on April 19, 2020, 06:57:50Quote from: Astar on April 18, 2020, 23:40:33You realize your link didn't even have a single comparison benchmark, and it's essentially making a claim without any evidence to back it up? This is what happens to people who say Google and then don't actually look at what they Googled.Quote from: LHPSU on April 18, 2020, 22:27:21
MX350 is about twice as fast in most games compared to the old Vega 8. How much do you expect Renoir to improve on the iGPU?
Google!
AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Beats The GeForce MX350
segmentnext.com/2020/03/11/amd-ryzen-9-4900hs-beats-the-geforce-mx350/
Plus it's well known that you need to compare them in real games, not benchmarks. The old Vega 8 could match the MX250 in some benchmarks, but it was generally quite a bit slower in actual gaming.
Quote from: Astar on April 18, 2020, 23:40:33You realize your link didn't even have a single comparison benchmark, and it's essentially making a claim without any evidence to back it up? This is what happens to people who say Google and then don't actually look at what they Googled.Quote from: LHPSU on April 18, 2020, 22:27:21
MX350 is about twice as fast in most games compared to the old Vega 8. How much do you expect Renoir to improve on the iGPU?
Google!
AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS Beats The GeForce MX350
segmentnext.com/2020/03/11/amd-ryzen-9-4900hs-beats-the-geforce-mx350/
Quote from: EvHu on April 19, 2020, 02:38:21Quote from: A on April 19, 2020, 01:18:27
This is so stupid! Why in the world would you waste money on an MX350 when the iGPU inside the renoir is pretty much virtually identical? If they wanted more gpu processing power, they would have been better off going with the 4900HS or the 4900H.
@william blake - Look, no one is saying iGPUs are better than dedicated GPUs. But that is when comparing REAL dGPUs. Not the low end junk that is the MX350. You are just consuming extra battery, making drivers more complex, wasting extra space, and making your laptop weight more.
Look, if any sane person was given a choice, I'd take a larger battery and larger heatsink over that MX350 any day.
You free up the constraint TDP of the u series APU to go entirely towards the CPU in demanding workloads. Plus in real world workloads the mx350 would be a fair bit faster. IGPUs perform disproportionatly well in benchmarks like you linked, probably due to a combination of low memory bandwidth/latency and poor drivers. Just look at Intel's G7 vs mx250.
As long as there's an Optimus equivalent the affect to battery life should be minimal, and better than a more power hungry H/HS skew while not using the GPU. The amount of physical space used should be minimal as well.
Quote from: A on April 19, 2020, 01:18:27
This is so stupid! Why in the world would you waste money on an MX350 when the iGPU inside the renoir is pretty much virtually identical? If they wanted more gpu processing power, they would have been better off going with the 4900HS or the 4900H.
@william blake - Look, no one is saying iGPUs are better than dedicated GPUs. But that is when comparing REAL dGPUs. Not the low end junk that is the MX350. You are just consuming extra battery, making drivers more complex, wasting extra space, and making your laptop weight more.
Look, if any sane person was given a choice, I'd take a larger battery and larger heatsink over that MX350 any day.
Quote from: Vajra on April 18, 2020, 22:24:28https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/124967122
Can you post the link again for everyone to see?
Quote from: Astar on April 18, 2020, 23:40:33moore's law is dead is a bona fide noob. he is religious and unable to learn. the most ignorant guy on youtube. or a paid liar
Nvidia's MX350 isn't TU118, and AMD's Renoir Makes it Pointless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb7qh4dtA7c
Quote from: LHPSU on April 18, 2020, 22:27:21
MX350 is about twice as fast in most games compared to the old Vega 8. How much do you expect Renoir to improve on the iGPU?
Quote from: LHPSU on April 18, 2020, 22:27:21
MX350 is about twice as fast in most games compared to the old Vega 8. How much do you expect Renoir to improve on the iGPU?
Quote from: william blake on April 18, 2020, 21:56:04Yes you are right, it seems is a good choice.
renoir-u and mx 350 is a great pairing for a thin 1,2-1,3kg laptop.
im so tired of this anti-consumer behavior from media telling me i dont need a discrete gpu.
stop this s*** please, stop lying to me. and stop raising the army of igpu believers.
first, mx350 is much faster
second, mx350 is a brand new sku, current intel zenbooks are all with mx 250.
third, mx 350 is enough for a very thin and light, no extra noise and heat please.
forth, dgpu means my fast zen-2 cores are free to do whatever i need them to do in their full 15w power envelope. no lags, no wasted memory, and better driver support.
Quote from: jiinnyang on April 18, 2020, 20:11:08Who knows, probably almost none will buy this model with nvidia, because in chinese gpu tests of 4800/4700u, in games is better than mx330(250) and almost on par with 350 when coupled with LPDDR4x RAM. Tdp 15W with turbo to 25W on Lenovo laptops. But it's fair because otherwise intel 15w + nvidia 25w is 35w.
Is this because of the anti compete contracts Nvidia has in place? or is it Intel?
Seriously, why include the mx350 on a Vega8 equipped laptop instead of thunderbolt!? smh