Quote from: Padmakara on April 17, 2020, 17:16:04Cooling can have a huge impact on CPU performance. And cooling is laptop specific. There can be big differences between laptops with the same processor.
Thanks. I thought you compare the cpus sustained performance and not the laptops performance, because in the title was R9 and i7 and Not the laptop brands, that's why I was saying about the graph, also the guy before me misinterpreted your graph.
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And of course a 17" has a much better cooling than a 14 but we're not talking about that here.
And when comparing the performance is good to compare also the power draw because is cpu comparison. So also the power draw should be regarded here. Not talking about laptops. If you compare cpu performance than also power W should be mentioned. Is very important for laptops buying.
All the best.
Namaskar
Quote from: Vaidyanathan on April 17, 2020, 16:46:28Quote from: Padmakara on April 17, 2020, 16:30:13Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Appreciated. Let me clarify on some of those.
Please include also the power consumption of the cpus.
Than it will be a great article.
Also down the graph, it should be first cpu, second as score, not mixed.
That's why probably the other guy didn't understand.
And the test should include r20 and not r15. Cinebench R20 uses a much larger and more complex test scene than R15, requiring about 8x the computational power needed to render it. All the pros reviewers use it.
Than it will he a professional review.
Cheers!
1. Firstly, this is just a preliminary comparison. I am not concluding anything just yet. The idea I wanted to convey was, if you were to buy a 4900HS or 10875H laptop, what is the pattern of sustained performance you can expect to get.
2. The graph is the same layout we use for all reviews. It helps that the laptop name is mentioned first as this test is highly laptop design dependent. As I've alluded to in my article, there is a possibility of a better curve for the 4900HS if it were to have been in a more roomy chassis than the Zephyrus G14.
3. CB20 hasn't completely replaced CB15. Also, if you look at the previous CPU benchmark article, I have included both CB15 and CB20 scores. Using CB15 helps in this case as most of our previous comparisons have been using this test and if someone wants to add an older model, it becomes easy. Moreover, CB15 is perfectly fine for an 8 core chip ;)
4. Power consumption details will follow in individual reviews for the aforemoentioned notebooks. They are in progress.
Thank you :)
Quote from: Vaidyanathan on April 17, 2020, 16:46:28Thanks. I thought you compare the cpus sustained performance and not the laptops performance, because in the title was R9 and i7 and Not the laptop brands, that's why I was saying about the graph, also the guy before me misinterpreted your graph.Quote from: Padmakara on April 17, 2020, 16:30:13Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Appreciated. Let me clarify on some of those.
Please include also the power consumption of the cpus.
Than it will be a great article.
Also down the graph, it should be first cpu, second as score, not mixed.
That's why probably the other guy didn't understand.
And the test should include r20 and not r15. Cinebench R20 uses a much larger and more complex test scene than R15, requiring about 8x the computational power needed to render it. All the pros reviewers use it.
Than it will he a professional review.
Cheers!
1. Firstly, this is just a preliminary comparison. I am not concluding anything just yet. The idea I wanted to convey was, if you were to buy a 4900HS or 10875H laptop, what is the pattern of sustained performance you can expect to get.
2. The graph is the same layout we use for all reviews. It helps that the laptop name is mentioned first as this test is highly laptop design dependent. As I've alluded to in my article, there is a possibility of a better curve for the 4900HS if it were to have been in a more roomy chassis than the Zephyrus G14.
3. CB20 hasn't completely replaced CB15. Also, if you look at the previous CPU benchmark article, I have included both CB15 and CB20 scores. Using CB15 helps in this case as most of our previous comparisons have been using this test and if someone wants to add an older model, it becomes easy. Moreover, CB15 is perfectly fine for an 8 core chip ;)
4. Power consumption details will follow in individual reviews for the aforemoentioned notebooks. They are in progress.
Thank you :)
Quote from: Focusonskills on April 17, 2020, 16:21:11Well, yes and no. Right now, we don't have any 17-inch 4900HS models yet. So, we are limited with what we can compare with. You can safely presume that a 17-inch laptop with a similar cooling as the Zephyrus G14 would probably offer even more rounds of near-peak perf and a reduced perf delta after that.
Isn't this comparison unfair? A 17" laptop is compared with a 14" laptop.
Quote from: Padmakara on April 17, 2020, 16:30:13Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Appreciated. Let me clarify on some of those.
Please include also the power consumption of the cpus.
Than it will be a great article.
Also down the graph, it should be first cpu, second as score, not mixed.
That's why probably the other guy didn't understand.
And the test should include r20 and not r15. Cinebench R20 uses a much larger and more complex test scene than R15, requiring about 8x the computational power needed to render it. All the pros reviewers use it.
Than it will he a professional review.
Cheers!
Quote from: Focusonskills on April 17, 2020, 16:21:11Probably the sustained higher clock of weel cooled 17" will translate into 10-12% higher performance than a 14" same cpu
Isn't this comparison unfair? A 17" laptop is compared with a 14" laptop.
Quote from: The Scott on April 17, 2020, 15:21:12Actually the primary numbers have been indicated along with percentage changes.
Sorry. I guess I overlooked the graph.
May I suggest including the numbers in the text paragraph next time?
I have a visual disability and my reading program handles text well but not graphs.
Again, I apologize.
Quote from: Vaidyanathan on April 17, 2020, 14:44:55Quote from: The Scott on April 17, 2020, 14:33:06
Where are the scores for AMD's 4900HS? You provide the Intel scores for various rounds of Cinebench R15 but not AMD. Why? This makes it difficult if not impossible to directly compare Ryzen 3 mobile to Comet Lake. A larger percentage dip doesn't matter if AMD is still outperforming Intel.
This is very shoddy benchmarking and journalism.
Lol wut? Did you check the graph? The 4900HS tops it. Hover your mouse over the legend below and the respective curves will be highlighted. For even more details, the review notebook is hyperlinked as well.
Thanks.
Quote from: The Scott on April 17, 2020, 14:33:06
Where are the scores for AMD's 4900HS? You provide the Intel scores for various rounds of Cinebench R15 but not AMD. Why? This makes it difficult if not impossible to directly compare Ryzen 3 mobile to Comet Lake. A larger percentage dip doesn't matter if AMD is still outperforming Intel.
This is very shoddy benchmarking and journalism.