Quote from: siciwuwe on January 29, 2019, 23:15:49Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
Get real man, the 2060 is nowhere near double a 1060, unless you compare tasks specifically optimized for it like ray tracing and low level D3D APIs, which is pointless anyways. Looking at the frame rates in most games, it's only about 30-40% faster on average. Price wise, most 2060 laptops are in the $1500-1800 range. That's around the price that 1070 laptops launched at 3 years ago, and it can't even beat a 1070. If that's not disappointing to you, look at the past launches of corresponding mobile GPUs:
GTX 970M (2014) easily beats GTX 680M (2012) also much cheaper
GTX 1060 (2016) easily beats GTX 980M (2014) also much cheaper
RTX 2060 (2019) can't beat GTX 1070 (2016) and same price
The ~80W mobile GPUs could outperform the previous gen higher end/flagship models with ease and launched significantly cheaper. That's clearly not the case now and Nvidia is raising prices across the board with Turing.
Quote from: abdhul on January 30, 2019, 14:15:28Quote from: senso on January 30, 2019, 13:23:10Quote from: tmp52 on January 29, 2019, 21:00:42Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:14:48
Anyone who is saying it's so expensive without doing any research,should stop commenting bullshit. RTX 2060 laptops will be same price as gtx 1060 and much cheaper than gtx 1070 laptops. IGN just posted an article about rtx laptop prices. There's an rtx 2060 laptop for 899$ listed.
As for performance,did you guys even read the article? It clearly said rtx 2060 is a huge jump over it's predecessor and easily beats gtx 1070,almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop.
It's funny how you ask people to stop commenting bullshit when you do the same yourself. The IGN post you talk about lists a $899 PRE-BUILT DESKTOP 2060 at walmart
The cheapest 2060 laptop is the MSI GL63 for $1499
So it's actually same price as 1070 laptops or even higher, while being the same performance as the 1070 laptop version (read this post again)
"Almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop" Yeah sure buddy. The 1080 laptop = 2070 laptop and 1070 laptop = 2060 laptop, you didn't even read the article.Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
As said before 2060 laptops are nowhere near 1060 laptop prices and it's not twice as fast as the 1060 laptop gpu either. If you read the benchmarks then the score of the 2060 mobile is on average 30% better than the 1060 mobile. For your interest double performance would mean 100% difference between the cards. So 30% performance increase from 1060 to 2060 let's see the prices now.
As stated above, cheapest rtx 2060 laptop is MSI GL63 for $1499
Now the cheapest gtx 1060 laptop at same retail is $809.99 Dell i7577
$1499-$809.99 is 689.01 US$ and (689.01/809.99)*100 = 85%
So you get 30% performance increase for 85% price increase. Are you really this delusional? How can you talk this much nonsense without considering not posting your bullshit? It's crazy how far a company can push their prices without any major performance increase and people can still defend this s***. Hope you were trolling, if not seek help.
Are you aware that those 1060 laptops launched at 1500$ plus, and they are bellow 900$ because they are on SALE to introduce the new lineups...
uhh what? that 7577 in the previous comment equipped with 1060 launched at $899 for the i5 version and $999 for the i7 version, and that's including a 256GB NVMe SSD. on sale, they're sometimes $700 new in dell outlet. why is there so many nvidiots in the comments defending an obviously overpriced GPU launch. that's the worse thing consumers would want.
Quote from: senso on January 30, 2019, 13:23:10Quote from: tmp52 on January 29, 2019, 21:00:42Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:14:48
Anyone who is saying it's so expensive without doing any research,should stop commenting bullshit. RTX 2060 laptops will be same price as gtx 1060 and much cheaper than gtx 1070 laptops. IGN just posted an article about rtx laptop prices. There's an rtx 2060 laptop for 899$ listed.
As for performance,did you guys even read the article? It clearly said rtx 2060 is a huge jump over it's predecessor and easily beats gtx 1070,almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop.
It's funny how you ask people to stop commenting bullshit when you do the same yourself. The IGN post you talk about lists a $899 PRE-BUILT DESKTOP 2060 at walmart
The cheapest 2060 laptop is the MSI GL63 for $1499
So it's actually same price as 1070 laptops or even higher, while being the same performance as the 1070 laptop version (read this post again)
"Almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop" Yeah sure buddy. The 1080 laptop = 2070 laptop and 1070 laptop = 2060 laptop, you didn't even read the article.Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
As said before 2060 laptops are nowhere near 1060 laptop prices and it's not twice as fast as the 1060 laptop gpu either. If you read the benchmarks then the score of the 2060 mobile is on average 30% better than the 1060 mobile. For your interest double performance would mean 100% difference between the cards. So 30% performance increase from 1060 to 2060 let's see the prices now.
As stated above, cheapest rtx 2060 laptop is MSI GL63 for $1499
Now the cheapest gtx 1060 laptop at same retail is $809.99 Dell i7577
$1499-$809.99 is 689.01 US$ and (689.01/809.99)*100 = 85%
So you get 30% performance increase for 85% price increase. Are you really this delusional? How can you talk this much nonsense without considering not posting your bullshit? It's crazy how far a company can push their prices without any major performance increase and people can still defend this s***. Hope you were trolling, if not seek help.
Are you aware that those 1060 laptops launched at 1500$ plus, and they are bellow 900$ because they are on SALE to introduce the new lineups...
Quote from: tmp52 on January 29, 2019, 21:00:42Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:14:48
Anyone who is saying it's so expensive without doing any research,should stop commenting bullshit. RTX 2060 laptops will be same price as gtx 1060 and much cheaper than gtx 1070 laptops. IGN just posted an article about rtx laptop prices. There's an rtx 2060 laptop for 899$ listed.
As for performance,did you guys even read the article? It clearly said rtx 2060 is a huge jump over it's predecessor and easily beats gtx 1070,almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop.
It's funny how you ask people to stop commenting bullshit when you do the same yourself. The IGN post you talk about lists a $899 PRE-BUILT DESKTOP 2060 at walmart
The cheapest 2060 laptop is the MSI GL63 for $1499
So it's actually same price as 1070 laptops or even higher, while being the same performance as the 1070 laptop version (read this post again)
"Almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop" Yeah sure buddy. The 1080 laptop = 2070 laptop and 1070 laptop = 2060 laptop, you didn't even read the article.Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
As said before 2060 laptops are nowhere near 1060 laptop prices and it's not twice as fast as the 1060 laptop gpu either. If you read the benchmarks then the score of the 2060 mobile is on average 30% better than the 1060 mobile. For your interest double performance would mean 100% difference between the cards. So 30% performance increase from 1060 to 2060 let's see the prices now.
As stated above, cheapest rtx 2060 laptop is MSI GL63 for $1499
Now the cheapest gtx 1060 laptop at same retail is $809.99 Dell i7577
$1499-$809.99 is 689.01 US$ and (689.01/809.99)*100 = 85%
So you get 30% performance increase for 85% price increase. Are you really this delusional? How can you talk this much nonsense without considering not posting your bullshit? It's crazy how far a company can push their prices without any major performance increase and people can still defend this s***. Hope you were trolling, if not seek help.
Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:14:48
Anyone who is saying it's so expensive without doing any research,should stop commenting bullshit. RTX 2060 laptops will be same price as gtx 1060 and much cheaper than gtx 1070 laptops. IGN just posted an article about rtx laptop prices. There's an rtx 2060 laptop for 899$ listed.
As for performance,did you guys even read the article? It clearly said rtx 2060 is a huge jump over it's predecessor and easily beats gtx 1070,almost on par with gtx 1080 laptop.
Quote from: Glorious 60fps on January 29, 2019, 19:17:43Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
What a load of crap!! Rtx 2060 is about almost double more powerful than gtx 1060. And you say that it's only 5-10% improvement compared to last gen? Lols. Also rtx 2060 laptops are listed for the same price as gtx 1060 laptops.
Quote from: tmp634 on January 29, 2019, 16:04:37
Disappointing. Turing offers little efficiency improvements over Pascal and the pricing is as bad as their desktop parts. Looking at the other reviews, the 2060 can't match the 1070 on average and yet 2060 laptops (and MXM cards) are priced about the same if not more expensive than even 1070 laptops (even when they launched 3 years ago). The 2070/2080 and especially Max-Q variants are even worse in value. Time Spy isn't going to be representative of gaming performance for most games in the near future. If you have a 10-series laptop, I'd say skip this gen and wait for the next architecture update when Ray Tracing tech becomes more mature. Nvidia is getting very greedy with pricing, and they're becoming like Intel on the CPU side: 5-10% improvement each gen and more expensive chips.
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