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Posted by doa379

- August 04, 2018, 11:52:01

Looks like a rip off copy of a recent Dell.

Posted by Babylon

- July 01, 2018, 00:47:03

In terms of specs per $, business laptops will always lose out to mid range and high end consumer laptops because they charge you the 'business tax' for cutting corners on essential hardware such as GPU, screen, audio, etc.

For the majority of people keyboard is the least important purchasing factor and highly subjective. And certainly not all Thinkpads are the benchmark for laptop keyboards. In my experience only a few including the X1 Carbon have great travel and tactile feedback while others may be subpar with varying degrees of quality depending on luck and keyboard manufacturer.

Posted by Gwen

- June 30, 2018, 22:45:57

So, vice versa and in short, if Dell puts premium Latitude/ThinkPad keyboards into their XPS models, we can all abandon Lenovo and have a great time?

Shouldn't be too difficult.

But Dell's Thunderbolt 3 docking stations are indistinguishable from Space X rockets - that's how loud they are xD
HP still struggles with overpriced and slower hardware, Schenker only makes huge laptops and Razer is beyond expensive while placing the only Thunderbolt 3 on the right side.

Posted by Wake up Lenovo!

- June 30, 2018, 17:23:35

The IdeaPad and Yoga have poor, uncomfortable, completely flat keyboards with tiny useless arrow keys, low travel noisy keys without adequate dampening (equally bad as a £1500+ Dell XPS 15 9570) that are unsuitable for people who write more than 1 hour a day due to a punishing feel on your fingers and joints.

One positive aspect of the cheap Lenovo laptops are the normal Ctrl+FN key positions.

I welcome the use of the ThinkPad keyboards without unnecessary numberpads and was hoping for XPS 15 2018 performance and efficiency, but once soneone else managed to copy ThinkPad keyboards, there's nothing that differenciates Lenovo.

Keyboards are a personal thing, but ever since I started using the superb ThinkPad T470s keyboard, all other laptop keyboards feel like a disgrace - even the Dell Latitude 7490 only feels "good".

Posted by Harmon

- June 30, 2018, 07:55:07

Lenovo already has their Ideapad and Yoga 700 series that competes with Dell's XPS line. The matching model to the XPS 15 9560 is the Ideapad 720s 15 with i7-7700HQ and 1050 Ti Max-Q, which is yet to be updated for 2018.
From the pictures, the P1 is more of a larger copy of X1C6 or T480s, and competes with 15" ultraportables including Samsung Notebook 9 15 (1.3 kg, MX150) and LG Gram 15 (1.1 kg, iGPU).

Posted by Poopie Doodle

- June 30, 2018, 00:36:16

I am disappointed about the following aspects:
- keyboard fixed in chassis, so you cannot change languages or get a quick replacement
- seems like they will use a slower processor such as the i58305G 4 core 8 thread which is just a glorified i7-7700HQ and not noticably faster than the i7-8550U
- GPU is only Intel HD 620, so this device is useless because you can get this IGP already in the ThinkPad E480, E580 for less than half the price
- probably throttling issues due to Lenovo's notoriously poor cooling systems
- no speakers on the left and right side despite more space
- fingerprint scanner is not integrated into the power on button
- bezels are actually not that thin especially on the bottom frame
- Fn and Ctrl keys are still positioned awkwardly
- front chassis had sharp edges for the palmrest
- fans exhaust likely on the right side where your hand/mouse will be

This cannot compete with the Dell XPS 15 9570 if there is not at least a mainstream i7-8750H with GTX 1050 Ti in there.

Posted by Benjamin Herzig

- June 30, 2018, 00:30:27

@Hadlock,

the specs given by the reddit user are conflicting, which is why they should probably be taken with a huge grain of salt. The Core i5-8305G always has the AMD Radeon Vega M GL as its GPU, so it does not make sense that the P1 would only have the Intel UHD 620.

Posted by Hadlock

- June 29, 2018, 21:48:16

The P1 is not really an XPS competitor unless it has a real GPU. The P1 has a a Intel 620 graphics, XPS has an Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti. One is capable of playing low end indie games, the other can run low end VR games. Apples and Oranges.

Posted by Sebastian Vaisov

- June 29, 2018, 20:26:35

Very thin? They're at least twice as thick as XPS. I have t470p. Chose it because of i7-7700HQ. But it looks so awful, that bezel, my old 2011 Toshiba has thinner bezel. I don't get why they can't just make them thin on all models

Posted by cattyx

- June 29, 2018, 12:38:54

Sounds good but Dell XPS 15 great for multimedia and gaming purposes. And in Lenovo if smth rotates beside cooler fan #1 it is PWM frequence. Lenovo suck at cooling implementation.

Posted by Redaktion

- June 29, 2018, 12:27:09

Since a few months, the name "ThinkPad P1" has been a mystery. Today, a first picture emerged, which shows a ThinkPad with a 15.6-inch screen without a numpad. Potentially, this could be Lenovo's competitor to the Dell XPS 15 and the Dell Precision 5530.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P1-First-picture-of-the-potential-Dell-XPS-15-competitor.313574.0.html