@MrClippy
(sorry for my english i am not sure how readable is this)
-first of all, "shitty laptops", "single channel" and such is a meme, nothing more. same configs as in intel models. no problem for customers. consumes more at idle? so? server architecture flaw, no big deal. sell it to us for a slightly less and we'll be ok.
-second, what r&d are you talking about? raven ridge is a raven ridge. how about just produce and sell? amd failed this simple task. a new low in mobile market, how about that? with times better arch than bulldozer. no words.
-third, anti-consumer practice from amd.
1. do you know how crappy is bristol/stoney ridge in 2018? the top a12=pentium n5000 in productivity. and consumes way more energy. and they sell it for more money!
2. 25x20 lie. they divided peak productivity by idle platform(!) power and call it efficiency. kaveri-carrizo 3.5x jump? sure i believe you. and its not a "our goal", its industry goal, if you count memory, psu and mobo consumption. later they divided productivity by tdp and call it efficiency again in athlon vs pentium marketing. just forgot to measure consumption, not a big deal who cares.
3. non open politics. no plans to raise on mobile market? say it to customer. put ryzens in some laptops? give us names and model numbers. instead of this i read about fastest mobile cpu and how they proud strong and leadership s*** like that. aaand no questions from media to amd about this.
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ill tell you why i am so mad. i bought many(literally many) high-end laptops for friends, coworkers and for any who asked me for help in the last 10-15 years. all with inlel for obvious reason. and when ryzen appeared i decided to buy my first ever high-end(i mean cpu speed, not gaming or made of titanium) amd laptop for myself. its like a quest you know, a new quest and i was very excited about it. just want 17 inches ips desktop replacement. and every time since ~the new year i told myself "no big deal i can wait for another month, im sure i can buy it soon". now it is october and my nerves are not the same. if I knew that would happen I would have brought some intel a year ago. right with the new 8250u or old 7300h,7700hq i dont care.
im still waiting because if I buy intel now, it means that I screwed up the year and failed the quest. f*** me. i see lisa su smile in my dreams already and she said f*** you customer.