Elon Musk claims AI has exhausted real-world training data

[Redaktion]

Elon Musk claims AI has exhausted available real-world training data since 2024, advocating for synthetic data generation as the future of AI development. Major tech companies already embrace this approach, though researchers warn of potential risks like model collapse and bias amplification.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Elon-Musk-claims-AI-has-exhausted-real-world-training-data.946333.0.html

[Jonas Bee]

Going with the assumption that AI has indeed exhausted real-world data (which is yet-another unsubstantiated claim by an loud business mogul rather than someone actually compentent in this field), this is all we got to show for it? A few tricks and a lot of unreliable/erroneous outout?

Pretty lame, so much that it seems like we shouldn't even be talking about it considering it was a dud after all.

[RobertJasiek]

Going with the assumption that AI has indeed exhausted real-world data (which is yet-another unsubstantiated claim by an loud business mogul rather than someone actually compentent in this field)

Right.

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In the game of Go, earlier AI versions relied on human-generated data (played games). Afterwards, AI has relied on self-learning from AI-generated data (AI self-played games) to become much stronger (very clearly above human-level AI player).

In restricted domains, such as Go, this can work especially if the domain is deterministic, complete information (and, maybe not necessary, 0-sum).

In unrestricted, non-deterministic domains with incomplete information, self-learning might be harder but still possible. However, a key issue is the relation between AI, mankind, all other biological species and our habitat including the earthbound biosphere.

Firstly, AI might model reality or create fiction, such as a world without, or with different kinds of, living beings.

Secondly, besides operation of the AI itself while consuming energy etc., particular kinds of AI on its own or by (typically) human queries might, or might not, physically affect mankind, other living beings and our habitat.

Thirdly, for kinds of AI physically affecting mankind, other living beings and our habitat, ethics, laws etc. might be applied, violated, ignored or replaced by fictional, AI-created standards. E.g., AI might create the standards to enable its own independent life or to extinguish mankind.

Therefore, letting AI learn on its own from scratch is an insufficient aim. Instead, it must also be guaranteed that our ethics, laws etc. are maintained and mankind survives the age of AI. Elon Musk just speaking about self-learning AI without also considering ethics, laws etc. is irresponsible. Politicians (not only in the EU) ought to regulate, and enforce application of regulation of, AI before everything that can be done is done. At least, he reminds us that AI progress is fast.

[usacomputer]

🤣🤣🤣 Well I'm seeing that despite being late, someone really competent in this field is doing things correctly and on time 🤣🤣 Do you think he does it himself? He has thousands of scientists, the best and most expert in this matter and everyone already knows that it is a matter of 1 year for Gork to be the most powerful Ai and more so when it starts to mount the new Nvidia RTX 5090 Graphics, it will be a GPU with 21,760 CUDA Cores and 32 GB of GDDR7 memory with a 512-bit bus, thus achieving an enormous bandwidth of 1,792 GB / s.
While the rest of the companies are far behind.
At least we have to recognize that Elon Musk is not stupid at all, quite the opposite, and that is why Gork will be almost twice as powerful as the competition.

[Jonas Bee]

🤣🤣🤣 Well I'm seeing that despite being late, someone really competent in this field is doing things correctly and on time 🤣🤣 Do you think he does it himself? He has thousands of scientists, the best and most expert in this matter and everyone already knows that it is a matter of 1 year for Gork to be the most powerful Ai and more so when it starts to mount the new Nvidia RTX 5090 Graphics, it will be a GPU with 21,760 CUDA Cores and 32 GB of GDDR7 memory with a 512-bit bus, thus achieving an enormous bandwidth of 1,792 GB / s.
While the rest of the companies are far behind.
At least we have to recognize that Elon Musk is not stupid at all, quite the opposite, and that is why Gork will be almost twice as powerful as the competition.

This sort of drivel is why I keep telling myself it's pointless to try discussing anything on NBC forums.

[RobertJasiek]

Do you know that usacomputer is a bot?

[Jonas Bee]

Do you know that usacomputer is a bot?

I did not, but it makes more sense now.